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Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by k at 5:52 pm EDT, Oct 18, 2004

" During a question-and-answer period, someone says they'd once heard Johnston call for the execution of gays and lesbians. He vigorously denies the charge. Later, he tells me that the decision to put gays to death is a matter best left up to the states. "If we ever had a nation sufficiently Christian" to make homosexuality illegal, he says, imposing capital punishment for homosexuality would be a subject for "an in-house debate. There were capital crimes in the Bible, and that would be something debated." "

[ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These people are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I think they've got their own little corner. -k]


 
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Decius at 6:21 pm EDT, Oct 18, 2004

k wrote:
] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate
] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These people
] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] think they've got their own little corner. -k]

The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be executed.


  
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by k at 9:55 pm EDT, Oct 18, 2004

Decius wrote:
] k wrote:
] ] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] ] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate
] ] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These
] people
] ] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] ] think they've got their own little corner. -k]
]
] The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be executed.

[ I know. But the religion isn't called Bible-anity. -k]


  
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Abaddon at 10:21 pm EDT, Oct 18, 2004

Decius wrote:
] k wrote:
] ] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] ] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate
] ] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These
] people
] ] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] ] think they've got their own little corner. -k]
]
] The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be executed.

yes and people that masturbate too...thats right boys and girls, not only will you go blind but you'll be taken out to the edge of the village and stoned to death...of course that was the same old testament god that routinely would give people (always the good guys mind you) the power to kill hundreds or thousands of their enemies...the old testament god was often more entertaining than the one that told you to stop killing each other, but he was also more of a dick..

--Abaddon


   
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Decius at 2:09 am EDT, Oct 19, 2004

abaddon wrote:
] Decius wrote:
] ] k wrote:
] ] ] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] ] ] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify
] hate
] ] ] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These
] ] people
] ] ] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] ] ] think they've got their own little corner. -k]
] ]
] ] The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be executed.
]
] yes and people that masturbate too...thats right boys and
] girls, not only will you go blind but you'll be taken out to
] the edge of the village and stoned to death...

Not just that, but don't eat calamari! Things that come from the sea which don't have scales or fins are an abomination and you should shun them!


    
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Abaddon at 1:58 pm EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Decius wrote:
] abaddon wrote:
] ] Decius wrote:
] ] ] k wrote:
] ] ] ] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
]
] ] ] ] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify
] ] hate
] ] ] ] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These
] ] ] people
] ] ] ] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell,
] I
] ] ] ] think they've got their own little corner. -k]
] ] ]
] ] ] The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be
] executed.
] ]
] ] yes and people that masturbate too...thats right boys and
] ] girls, not only will you go blind but you'll be taken out to
]
] ] the edge of the village and stoned to death...
]
] Not just that, but don't eat calamari! Things that come from
] the sea which don't have scales or fins are an abomination and
] you should shun them!

don't forget that women are bad, thats a good one too...


  
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Lost at 5:43 am EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Decius wrote:
] k wrote:
] ] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] ] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate
] ] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These
] people
] ] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] ] think they've got their own little corner. -k]
]
] The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be executed.

It also commands that all men in Iraq be murdered, and all women and children be enslaved. Save those that US Soldiers want to marry, who may then exist in a state of matrimonial slavery unless their husbands reject them, at which point they may wander freely.

God damn the bible is fucked.


  
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Dolemite at 11:30 am EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Decius wrote:
] k wrote:
] ] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] ] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate
] ] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These
] people
] ] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] ] think they've got their own little corner. -k]
]
] The bible explicitly commands that homosexuals be executed.

That was in the Old Testament, which is considered to be the law within Judaism. However, Christianity requires that one believe what Christ said. One important thing he said, was, "I am the END of the old law and the beginning of the new." That doesn't mean selectively applying Old Testament law to people, but completely discarding it and starting from scratch. That's why Christians can eat bacon.

Dolemite


 
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Vile at 6:34 pm EDT, Oct 18, 2004

k wrote:
] " During a question-and-answer period, someone says they'd
] once heard Johnston call for the execution of gays and
] lesbians. He vigorously denies the charge. Later, he tells me
] that the decision to put gays to death is a matter best left
] up to the states. "If we ever had a nation sufficiently
] Christian" to make homosexuality illegal, he says, imposing
] capital punishment for homosexuality would be a subject for
] "an in-house debate. There were capital crimes in the Bible,
] and that would be something debated." "
]
] [ This shit gives me chills. What is it with people and
] unbridled hatred. And please, PLEASE, someone justify hate
] with something Jesus said. I fucking dare you. These people
] are as unchristian as they come, and if there's a hell, I
] think they've got their own little corner. -k]

Yes, right next to the faggots. It will be significantly more fun for the christians to be in hell watching the gays burn than to be in heaven, bored. Homosexuals, according to their religion, are wrong. Please get over it. You are as prejudiced against their view as they are against yours. I wonder when you will realize you suffer from the same diseases you attempt to cure. You must be gay, eh?


  
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by k at 10:02 pm EDT, Oct 18, 2004

Vile wrote:
] Yes, right next to the faggots. It will be significantly more
] fun for the christians to be in hell watching the gays burn
] than to be in heaven, bored. Homosexuals, according to their
] religion, are wrong. Please get over it. You are as
] prejudiced against their view as they are against yours. I
] wonder when you will realize you suffer from the same diseases
] you attempt to cure. You must be gay, eh?

[ Oh yeah. Can't get enough cock.

Fortunately I don't believe in hell, and so I don't think anyone will end up there. It's mostly the intellectual dishonesty of fundamentalists that i have a problem with. If you want to be christian, fine, but that seems to require that you follow the teachings of Jesus, not some angry old testament god. And you're right, i'm intolerant of the intolerant... ugly cycle of self disgust there. Cock makes it better though, mostly. -k]


   
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Vile at 4:11 pm EDT, Oct 19, 2004

k wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] Yes, right next to the faggots. It will be significantly
] more
] ] fun for the christians to be in hell watching the gays burn
] ] than to be in heaven, bored. Homosexuals, according to
] their
] ] religion, are wrong. Please get over it. You are as
] ] prejudiced against their view as they are against yours. I
] ] wonder when you will realize you suffer from the same
] diseases
] ] you attempt to cure. You must be gay, eh?
]
] [ Oh yeah. Can't get enough cock.
]
] Fortunately I don't believe in hell, and so I don't think
] anyone will end up there. It's mostly the intellectual
] dishonesty of fundamentalists that i have a problem with. If
] you want to be christian, fine, but that seems to require that
] you follow the teachings of Jesus, not some angry old
] testament god. And you're right, i'm intolerant of the
] intolerant... ugly cycle of self disgust there. Cock makes it
] better though, mostly. -k]

I don't think that tolerating homosexuals is any more required than tolerating racists. See, one does not choose their race, but they do choose their sexual preference. Anyway gays want more than tolerance, they want blanket acceptance. That is wrong. Not everyone will accept them and that is an individuals perogative. Its what makes america great. That some folks can be gay and others can despise them.


    
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by k at 4:45 pm EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Vile wrote:
] I don't think that tolerating homosexuals is any more required
] than tolerating racists. See, one does not choose their race,
] but they do choose their sexual preference. Anyway gays want
] more than tolerance, they want blanket acceptance. That is
] wrong. Not everyone will accept them and that is an
] individuals perogative. Its what makes america great. That
] some folks can be gay and others can despise them.

[ Certainly, i have no right to say that another person can't think that homosexuality is wrong, any more than I can enjoin someone from disliking blacks or asians. What I feel I can do is hold people to having a rational explanation for their opinions. And "It's immoral." isn't an explanation, it's an evasion... one that lots of people happily spout off. I haven't yet heard a convincing argument against homosexuality that doesn't amount, essentially, to "Ewwwww!" and I don't really expect to. Maybe it'll happen. Until then, it's just hate, bred of ignorance and intellectual rigidity, and that's something I have no compunction opposing. -k]


     
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Vile at 2:58 am EDT, Oct 23, 2004

k wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] I don't think that tolerating homosexuals is any more
] required
] ] than tolerating racists. See, one does not choose their
] race,
] ] but they do choose their sexual preference. Anyway gays
] want
] ] more than tolerance, they want blanket acceptance. That is
] ] wrong. Not everyone will accept them and that is an
] ] individuals perogative. Its what makes america great. That
]
] ] some folks can be gay and others can despise them.
]
] [ Certainly, i have no right to say that another person can't
] think that homosexuality is wrong, any more than I can enjoin
] someone from disliking blacks or asians. What I feel I can do
] is hold people to having a rational explanation for their
] opinions. And "It's immoral." isn't an explanation, it's an
] evasion... one that lots of people happily spout off. I
] haven't yet heard a convincing argument against homosexuality
] that doesn't amount, essentially, to "Ewwwww!" and I don't
] really expect to. Maybe it'll happen. Until then, it's just
] hate, bred of ignorance and intellectual rigidity, and that's
] something I have no compunction opposing. -k]

You resemble my point, kid. Nothing you said there has any validity beyond your own self-made philosophy. There are no facts you can use to back this argument. You obviously didnt even try. Just shut up sometimes. No one wants you monopolizing the main page with hysteria culled from the fringe. At least I was only responding.


  
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Decius at 2:14 am EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Vile wrote:
] Homosexuals, according to their
] religion, are wrong. Please get over it. You are as
] prejudiced against their view as they are against yours.

I know this wasn't directed at me but I'm going to respond anyway.

Thats ridiculous. I'm not trying to pass a law preventing them from believing in their religious views. No one is trying to force their churches to perform homosexual marriages. By crafting a law which imposes what is fundamentally a religious belief about marriage upon the people they are attacking the freedom of religion. It will literally be illegal for people to hold different religious views about marriage then they do. I make no argument about their beliefs right or wrong. I argue only that I ought to have the freedom to come to my own conclusions, and that cannot occur when their beliefs are legislated.


   
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Vile at 4:24 pm EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Decius wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] Homosexuals, according to their
] ] religion, are wrong. Please get over it. You are as
] ] prejudiced against their view as they are against yours.
]
] I know this wasn't directed at me but I'm going to respond
] anyone.
]
] Thats ridiculous. I'm not trying to pass a law preventing them
] from believing in their religious views. No one is trying to
] force their churches to perform homosexual marriages. By
] crafting a law which imposes what is fundamentally a religious
] belief about marriage upon the people they are attacking the
] freedom of religion. It will literally be illegal for people
] to hold different religious views about marriage then they do.
] I make no argument about their beliefs right or wrong. I argue
] only that I ought to have the freedom to come to my own
] conclusions, and that cannot occur when their beliefs are
] legislated.

See, here is where it gets fucked up. First, they wanted tolerance. Now they want the same benefits as normal people. Where do we draw the line? When we accept perversion as the norm, then we fuck with biology itself. Next, they will begin suing churches to force them to marry them. Watch for it! They don;t want equality. And then I should be able to come to my own conclusions regarding whether I want to use heroin or not, whether I want to take a life or not, or whether I want to go around sticking people with AIDS needles, which is what homosexuals basically did to us in the 80's. Now they want to drain our economy and force their fucked up perversion onto an american public that largely thinks that they are nuts and sick. Take Matthew Shepherd for instance. That kid was totally asking for what happened to him. He paid the price for annoying the shit out of americans. IF gays want totally equality then they should give up their special benefits. I cannot believe that it is considered a "hate Crime" to kick the shit out of one of these AIDS-breeders. That is ridiculous. One is born into their race, therefore they should not have to answer to society for it, but one is not born into being gay. It's a choice that should be scrutinized by the public as much as pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality and terrorism.
It's gonna begin with queers and end up with NAMBLA trying to force us to tolerate Child rape.


    
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by E2 at 10:02 pm EDT, Oct 19, 2004

Vile wrote:
] See, here is where it gets fucked up. First, they wanted
] tolerance. Now they want the same benefits as normal people.
] Where do we draw the line?

There is an easy answer to this. We draw the line at hurting other people. As long as what you are doing dosn't hurt anybody else, the government has no right to interfere. You want to tell other people how to run their lives.

] When we accept perversion as the
] norm, then we fuck with biology itself.

Uhm.... like antibiotics?

] Next, they will begin
] suing churches to force them to marry them. Watch for it!

This would be an intrusion into the personal decisions of private individuals and would be an overstep of the government. The same argument applies to gays in the Boy Scouts. Private organizations can do whatever the hell they want provided they don't hurt anyone else. That includes setting standards for membership.


] They don;t want equality. And then I should be able to come
] to my own conclusions regarding whether I want to use heroin
] or not,

yes, you should, because it dosn't directly hurt anybody else.

] whether I want to take a life or not,

no, this hurts other people.

] or whether I
] want to go around sticking people with AIDS needles,

no, this hurts other people.

] which is
] what homosexuals basically did to us in the 80's.

What the fuck are you talking about? I don't recall being stuck by an "AIDS needle"..

] Now they
] want to drain our economy and force their fucked up perversion
] onto an american public that largely thinks that they are nuts
] and sick.

"drain our economy"??? I think homosexuality is disgusting and perverse, but I'm not going to tell them what to do if it isn't hurting anybody else. It's none of my fucking business and it's none of yours either. But the argument in America is about legal status as married. And the majority of Americans believe that gays should have some basic rights like being able to see each other in the hospital and arrange funerals. Marriage is a religious concept and should be left up to religious institutions. NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

] Take Matthew Shepherd for instance. That kid was
] totally asking for what happened to him. He paid the price
] for annoying the shit out of americans.

Flat world'ers like you are beginning to bug the shit out of Americans.

] IF gays want totally
] equality then they should give up their special benefits. I
] cannot believe that it is considered a "hate Crime" to kick
] the shit out of one of these AIDS-breeders. That is
] ridiculous.

Kicking the shit out of anyone in ANY situation besides defense is unnacceptable and will be always be illegal. The question of what is a "hate crime" is a good one, and it merits discussion (though I doubt you have anyth... [ Read More (0.1k in body) ]


     
RE: Salon.com News | 'Homosexuals are hellbound!'
by Vile at 3:22 am EDT, Oct 23, 2004

E2 wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] See, here is where it gets fucked up. First, they wanted
] ] tolerance. Now they want the same benefits as normal
] people.
] ] Where do we draw the line?
]
] There is an easy answer to this. We draw the line at hurting
] other people. As long as what you are doing dosn't hurt
] anybody else, the government has no right to interfere. You
] want to tell other people how to run their lives.

No, they are entitled to phyisically do whatever the hell they would like, even spread AIDS. We are simply unarmed to combat them.
]
]
] ] When we accept perversion as the
] ] norm, then we fuck with biology itself.
]
] Uhm.... like antibiotics?

Yes. The population is out of control. More people should die. Anti-biotics fucks up the equation. Sometimes existence itself breeds environmental catastrophe.
]
]
] ] Next, they will begin
] ] suing churches to force them to marry them. Watch for it!
]
] This would be an intrusion into the personal decisions of
] private individuals and would be an overstep of the
] government. The same argument applies to gays in the Boy
] Scouts. Private organizations can do whatever the hell they
] want provided they don't hurt anyone else. That includes
] setting standards for membership.

Well, once the liberal agenda has its way, there will be no decisions made that aren't made by the government. We will be forced to sit next to gays making out while we try to attend mass on Sunday.
]
]
]
] ] They don;t want equality. And then I should be able to come
] ] to my own conclusions regarding whether I want to use heroin
]
] ] or not,
]
] yes, you should, because it dosn't directly hurt anybody else.

It breeds AIDS.
]
]
] ] whether I want to take a life or not,
]
] no, this hurts other people.

Then why is it okay for homosexuals to molest kids and breed AIDS?
]
] ] or whether I
] ] want to go around sticking people with AIDS needles,
]
] no, this hurts other people.

Depends on where you stick them.
]
] ] which is
] ] what homosexuals basically did to us in the 80's.
]
] What the fuck are you talking about? I don't recall being
] stuck by an "AIDS needle"..

Guess you hung out with normal heterosexual people.
]
] ] Now they
] ] want to drain our economy and force their fucked up
] perversion
] ] onto an american public that largely thinks that they are
] nuts
] ] and sick.
]
] "drain our economy"??? I think homosexuality is disgusting
] and perverse, but I'm not going to tell them what to do if it
] isn't hurting anybody else. It's none of my fucking business
] and it's none of yours either.

Then they... [ Read More (0.5k in body) ]


 
 
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