IconoclasT wrote:
] I personally
] reserve the right to sell my shares of any stock whenever the
] hell I want to. Where are all the freedom loving activists
] here? Regardless of how you feel about her and her image, the
] feds scapegoated her to make an example to others.

Ummm... no - the FTC says you can NOT sell your shares of any stock whenever you like. There are things called "blackout periods" to prevent people with privileged information (like Martha) from dumping their stock when the company is about to tank, or from buying large amounts of stock, say, when there is about to be a share split.

She broke the law as the law is written. She got caught and is paying the consequences. Why is it so painfully difficult for some to comprehend this? If she is being made an example by the govt. then GOOD! I'm sick of celebrities thinking they are above the law. -LB

RE: Save Martha! For Martha Stewart fans

Elonka wrote:
] If people are going to blame Bush for everything that goes
] wrong, then I believe that they should also give him credit
] for some of the things that go *right*. And say what you
] will, we haven't had another 9/11 while on his watch.

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

Furor over Bush's 9/11 ad

IconoclasT wrote:
] LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Lionel Richie's wife,
] who is seeking spousal support from the pop star as their
] divorce case proceeds, has told a Los Angeles judge that the
] couple regularly spent more than $300,000 a month.
] Diane Richie, in a written declaration published on the
] Smoking Gun Web site (http://www.thesmokinggun.com), said her
] monthly expenses include $15,000 for clothing, shoes and
] accessories, $3,000 for "dermatology" and $1,000 for laser
] hair removal.
]
] The 37-year-old mother of two, who filed for a divorce in
] January, said that each month she spends $600 on hair, $250 on
] nails, $150 on electrolysis, $450 on facials, $500 for her
] trainer and $600 each on Pilates, massages, and therapy.
]
] $4k in monthly dermatology and hair removal expenses?

If she really needs that much work, no wonder he's leaving her.

RE: Lifestyle of the Richie and famous

] The information coming in from the Mars rovers is
] exciting for NASA, but it's ending some of the action for
] bookies in Britain.
]
] The bookmaking firm Ladbrokes announced it's stopped
] taking bets on the question of whether there was ever
] life on Mars.
]
] NASA scientists said yesterday that the rover Opportunity
] found strong evidence to suggest at least part of the Red
] Planet once had a wet enough environment to sustain life.
]
] A Ladbrokes spokesman says the latest odds in favor of
] past life on Mars were 16-1. Back in the '70s, when the
] first bets were placed, the odds were 1,000-1.
]
] He says he expects that scientists will find evidence of
] past life on Mars within the coming years.

Bookies Stop Taking Bets on Life on Mars

IconoclasT wrote:
] ]W1ld wrote:
] ] So all those Haitian rebels are on the CIA bankroll?
] ] Right.........
] ] Haitie is such a strategic country for the US to take over,
] ] you know.
] ] Im sure that North Korea is shaking in there boots right now
]
] ] at the coup d'etat that Bush pulled off in Haitie.
]
] GWB probably had Aristide ushered out because his KKK wizard
] wanted him to and also so that Cheney and Halliburton could
] corner the market on Haitian vodoo products.
]
] If we were going to pursue coups around the world, there are
] many more strategic places to do it than Haiti. Honestly, it's
] not that important nor does it have anything valuable to
] anyone who would care to exploit it.

Not to mention the fact that this is the 2'nd time in a decade that Aristide has been forced from power (or did he forget that little detail?) the USA returned him to power LAST time. I guess he is just pissed off we didn't/wouldn't do it again.

There was a coup indeed - it was by his own people tired of corruption, famine and poverty saying enough is enough. -LB

RE: Aristide says U.S. deposed him in 'coup d'etat'

]W1ld wrote:
] So all those Haitian rebels are on the CIA bankroll?
] Right.........
] Haitie is such a strategic country for the US to take over,
] you know.
] Im sure that North Korea is shaking in there boots right now
] at the coup d'etat that Bush pulled off in Haitie.

GWB probably had Aristide ushered out because his KKK wizard wanted him to and also so that Cheney and Halliburton could corner the market on Haitian vodoo products.

If we were going to pursue coups around the world, there are many more strategic places to do it than Haiti. Honestly, it's not that important nor does it have anything valuable to anyone who would care to exploit it.

RE: Aristide says U.S. deposed him in 'coup d'etat'

Hijexx wrote:
]
] Laughing Boy built a straw man arguement to attack.

No - you've built the straw man. I merely brought the matches to burn it down.

] LB, the
] guy I quoted from the newspaper later retracted the statement.

You should have illistrated that little detail in your meme then.

] It was enlightening because of the retraction a few days
] later.

Why is it "enlightening"? "Hey I wish to retract my comment that the holocaust never happened." How does someones retractment of their statement bolster your questioning of the official account?

] Those first words though, that was an initial response
] from someone who dealt with demolitions. From day one, people
] had independent impressions and ideas about the structural
] failures.

Well, I'm no demolitions expert, yet I can clearly see from watching the video there is NO evidence of any explosives used to bring it down. The entire top of the north tower collapses all at once and it all happens at or above the point of entry of the aircraft.

] Many people question the official accounting. I am one of
] them.

Exactly what part of what happened on 9-11 do you not agree with? That an airliner crashing into a sky scraper can't produce a hot enough fire to soften the steel superstructure and cause it to collapse on itself? You question "why didn't the 1975 fire, set on the 11th floor, which spread to 6 other floors and burned for 3 hours, cause a collapse?" Gee... I donno... maybe because that fire was a little different in nature?? Maybe because there weren't several hundred gallons of jet fuel spilled thruout a few floors to cause everything and ANYTHING it touched to burn at high temperature???

] The FEMA report on WTC 7 was inconclusive. My eyes tell me it
] was a controlled demolition. I am not the only one who
] believes this.

No, you probably arent. Just like Elonka pointed out - there are plenty of Holocaust debunkers out there.

] Convince us that it was not a controlled
] demolition, please.

No. Convince *us* it WAS a controlled demolition. Since you also said the antenna started to collapse before the rest of the structure (when it clearly did NOT), the burden of proof is on you. Please cite evidence other than "what (your) eyes tell you". -LB

RE: 9-11 Research

] "Banning the head scarves in France is in line with
] burning villages with its inhabitants in Afghanistan,
] bringing houses down on the heads of sleeping
] Palestinians, with killing children in Iraq and robbing
] their oil using false pretexts ... (and) torturing
] (Muslims) in the cells of Guantanamo," the tape said.

Ummm... yea. -LB

'Qaeda tapes' warn of more attacks

Hijexx wrote:
] Also of note is the antenna. It was 352 feet long, weighing
] 353 tons. If you notice watching the collapse video here:
]
] http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/n_tower_1
] st24.mpg
]
] The antenna begins it's collapse before any other part of the
] building. This indicates the core failed above the impact
] floor first (the antenna's weight was primarily supported by
] the core.) A few moments later the collaps starts to manifest
] in the top floors, then the impact floor.

I suggest everyone that’s starting to think "hey, this guy is onto something here!" take a closer look at the video. Play it in Quicktime or something that lets you drag frame by frame forward AND reverse. The Antenna DOES NOT start to collapse first. it starts to collapse in perfect tandem with the top of the roof. And the entire top of the tower collapses at or just above the entry point of the airplane - where the fire would be burning hottest.

] "Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center
] suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both
] towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. The
] collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a
] chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said
] Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico
] Institute of Mining and Technology. "My opinion is, based on
] the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade
] Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings
] that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said.

Goes to show you... no matter how pie-in-the-sky your conspiracy theory is... you'll find an "expert witness" that will support you and your bad data. What do you want to bet this crack-pot has a book and/or tv show "9-11 - what the government doesn’t want you to know!" in the works??

The “moon landing hoax” isn’t bad enough. Someone has to take the worst tragedy our country has ever seen and try to make a buck off of it. Sad. -LB

RE: 9-11 Research

] Pakistan has dramatically stepped up its assistance to
] the U.S.-led campaign to capture Osama bin Laden,
] deploying thousands of soldiers into its lawless
] northwestern frontier, pressuring tribal elders, and
] allowing American soldiers from neighboring Afghanistan
] to make forays across the border, senior Pentagon and
] Pakistani officials say.

It begins.

Mercury News | 02/21/2004 | Pakistan turns up the heat on the hunt for bin Laden