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The Old North by Robbie at 1:44 pm EST, Dec 6, 2003 |
] That seems to be a theme here: the South takes Northern ] ideas and blows them up into gigantic proportions ] undreamt of by the Yankee originators. Are Southerners trying to become old-fashioned Northerners? |
The Old North by Decius at 1:09 pm EST, Dec 7, 2003 |
] Are Southerners mainly people who are trying very hard to ] be old-fashioned Northerners? ] ] The phenomenon seems to go back a long, long way, and it ] may have something to do with how the South got to be the ] Bible Belt. Two centuries ago, when New England was the ] Bible Belt, the South had a reputation as an unchurched ] wilderness populated by godless heathens. Knoxville, in ] particular. In 1810, when it was capital of Tennessee, ] Knoxville was described with horror (by a ] Pennsylvania-churched minister) as the only capital city ] in the world without a single chapel of any denomination. ] But later, in that respect, the South became more ] Northern than the North. ] ] A related native of the North was prohibition. The ] American temperance movement started in Massachusetts in ] the 1820s. The idea gained some advocates in Tennessee, ] but they weren't successful in a big way until after ] Illinois reformer Frances Willard conducted her more than ] one crusade in Knoxville. She sometimes made the South ] seem as if it was behind the times because unlike ] some progressive Northern communities, we didn't yet have ] prohibition. A very interesting observation on the collective psychology of the South. |
The Old North by Rattle at 12:15 pm EST, Dec 8, 2003 |
] There may well be some sort of subversive cultural ] exchange program going on here. The North is pretending ] it's Southern, as the South completes its metamorphosis ] into a wacky funhouse version of the Old North. But you ] have to wonder whether we're getting the best of the ] bargain. Being Jersey Yankee who lived in Tennessee, and now resides in San Francisco, this article amused the hell out of me. |
The Old North by k at 2:54 pm EST, Dec 8, 2003 |
] He believed car salesmen were part of a conspiracy to ] enslave the Southerner to Yankee interests: auto ] manufacturers, loaning institutions, and oil companies. very interesting article... i'm sure there is more balance than he gives light to, but nonetheless, it's an intriguing line of thought... |
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