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Mac Rumors: QTFairUse - iTunes Digital Rights Management (DRM) Circumvented?
by Rattle at 10:35 pm EST, Nov 28, 2003

Jon Johansen (of DeCSS fame) has released code that strips DRM from Apple ACC audio format.

Mac Rumors has the straight dope:

] The application clearly piggybacks off of Apple's
] Quicktime player and patches the "quicktimempeg4.qtx"
] file of Windows' Quicktime. It then outputs this "raw AAC
] data" to a file while the original AAC file plays under
] Quicktime. The proposed theory is that the application
] intercepts the Decrypted AAC data from Quicktime after
] authorization has taken place, and saves out the
] resultant decrypted (de-DRM'd) AAC data.
]
] Based on limited testing from one user with Quicktime 6.4
] under Windows... the application does create DRM-free
] ".aac" files when Protected AAC files are played through
] Quicktime. These output files, however, are unplayable in
] their raw form in most players. The reason for this is
] that these files represents the true "raw" AAC data that
] has been passed through to Quicktime to play. All header
] information has been removed. To create playable files, a
] further packaging of the files is required to add the
] appropriate MPEG headers. But the application does work
] as suggested -- stripping DRM from your protected AAC
] files (though is not of any practical use in its current
] form).

"QTFairUse" .. Great name. Very to the point.

Umm.. I think this is where I say "here we go again.." ??

It will be interesting to see how Apple reacts.. Between this and the current iPod dirty secrets thing, they have a fair amount of pressure on them. I hope they don't do something stupid.

They should have been expecting this to happen at some point.. They likely have a strategy thought out already for dealing with this.


 
RE: Mac Rumors: QTFairUse - iTunes Digital Rights Management (DRM) Circumvented?
by Jeremy at 12:06 am EST, Nov 29, 2003

Rattle wrote:
] Jon Johansen (of DeCSS fame) has released code
] that strips DRM from Apple ACC audio format.
]
] It will be interesting to see how Apple reacts.

Umm ... I read this news earlier and didn't post about it.

My reaction was: so what? I suspect Apple's will be the same.

Why does this matter? Aside from perhaps being needlessly clever, what is new here? You can already burn a CD full of iTunes and then rip it right back. Voila. You don't even have to leave iTunes to do this.

This seems pointless. Please, please, let's not bicker and argue about the finer points of concatenated codecs. If you are content with playing AAC from your PowerBook, then you are not an audiophile.

Jon Johansen and Bruce Schneier should have lunch. Maybe they could start a project. I'll leave it to Bill Joy to make them stop it.

If ever you find yourself inclined to try QTFairUse, just ask:

What Would Bill Joy Do?


  
RE: Mac Rumors: QTFairUse - iTunes Digital Rights Management (DRM) Circumvented?
by Rattle at 9:44 pm EST, Nov 29, 2003

Jeremy wrote:
] This seems pointless. Please, please, let's not bicker and
] argue about the finer points of concatenated codecs. If you
] are content with playing AAC from your PowerBook, then you are
] not an audiophile.

I'm not an audiophile. At one point I really wanted to be one, but its just too damn expensive, and to actually take it seriously you need to build rooms around it, from the ground up with no parallel surfaces, etc. I, like most people, value things like portability and flexibility more.

I hope you are right and Apple just ignores this. That would be the best thing to do. Its not like its going to hurt them much. I can't see any positives in making a big issue of it. Now, if this was up to the RIAA and the labels, they would be suing anyone they could sue. And Apple _does_ have to deal with that, as they are a media company too, they do have to appease the all same people and share many of the same interests.

Apple is a vertical hardware and media company. Apple has business interests all over the spectrum, from music to movies to software tools to hardware equipment. The way they handle this kind of thing is going to speak volumes. They are _the_ innovator in the space right now.

Will they react the same way as the other media companies to this reoccurring problem and push the bubble bigger? I think its interesting..

] If ever you find yourself inclined to try QTFairUse, just ask:
]
] What Would Bill Joy Do?

Troll! :)


   
RE: Mac Rumors: QTFairUse - iTunes Digital Rights Management (DRM) Circumvented?
by Jeremy at 2:22 am EST, Nov 30, 2003

Rattle wrote:
] Jeremy wrote:
] ] If ever you find yourself inclined to try QTFairUse, just ask:
] ] What Would Bill Joy Do?
]
] Troll! :)

I certainly made it seem that way, but actually, no.

I was thinking more along the lines of what I quoted from his recent Wired interview:

"I try to work on things that won't happen unless I do them. My goal is to do great things."

If you have time, and if you have talent, you can do anything. Why waste both on trivial things that anyone could do?


 
RE: Mac Rumors: QTFairUse - iTunes Digital Rights Management (DRM) Circumvented?
by k at 10:40 am EST, Nov 29, 2003

Rattle wrote:
] Jon Johansen (of DeCSS fame) has released code that strips DRM
] from Apple ACC audio format.
]
]
] "QTFairUse" .. Great name. Very to the point.
]
] Umm.. I think this is where I say "here we go again.." ??
]
] It will be interesting to see how Apple reacts.. Between this
] and the current iPod dirty secrets thing, they have a fair
] amount of pressure on them. I hope they don't do something
] stupid.
]
] They should have been expecting this to happen at some point..
] They likely have a strategy thought out already for dealing
] with this.

more than likely their strategy is only partly their own... certainly, they could make good or bad choices, but when it comes down to it, they're gonna have to answer to the RIAA, or else lose their rights. so, if this goes down in bullshit way, remember who's holding the strings...


 
 
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