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The Dark Country
by noteworthy at 8:09 am EST, Dec 7, 2009 |
Gil Shochat: It was clear that the impulse toward secrecy and dissimulation Seymour Hersh was forced to combat in the US was operating here, too. Canadians didn't know much about what their government was up to, and politicians wanted to keep it that way. A cultural shift, if it is to come, will likely have to begin with local initiatives and public pressure.
Decius: It's important to understand that it isn't Congress that must change -- it is us.
On John Young's Cryptome: It's like a nihilist art project: Provide your readers with more than 40,000 files of data the government doesn't want you to have, data that exposes the lies of the powerful, and then remind them that you can never, ever know for sure who is lying.
Into the depths: Having been told that the world rested on a platform which rested on the back of an elephant which rested in turn on the back of a turtle, he asked, what did the turtle rest on? Another turtle. And that turtle? "Ah, Sahib, after that it is turtles all the way down."
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RE: The Dark Country
by flynn23 at 6:06 pm EST, Dec 7, 2009 |
noteworthy wrote:
Gil Shochat: It was clear that the impulse toward secrecy and dissimulation Seymour Hersh was forced to combat in the US was operating here, too. Canadians didn't know much about what their government was up to, and politicians wanted to keep it that way. A cultural shift, if it is to come, will likely have to begin with local initiatives and public pressure.
Decius: It's important to understand that it isn't Congress that must change -- it is us.
On John Young's Cryptome: It's like a nihilist art project: Provide your readers with more than 40,000 files of data the government doesn't want you to have, data that exposes the lies of the powerful, and then remind them that you can never, ever know for sure who is lying.
Into the depths: Having been told that the world rested on a platform which rested on the back of an elephant which rested in turn on the back of a turtle, he asked, what did the turtle rest on? Another turtle. And that turtle? "Ah, Sahib, after that it is turtles all the way down."
I found this particularly relevant in the wake of this when I asked the CEO of another telecommunications company about what he charged the Feds and his reply was "they're my biggest customer right now". |
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