I saw the actual footage on Euronews, here in Moscow. It was way harsh. :( One guy clearly hadn't been allowed to sleep, or was drugged, or had his head booted one too many times. He couldn't focus properly. They lifted the head of another guy who was lying on the ground, who was just staring blankly into space, covered in blood, to make him look into the cameras.

Thrynn wrote:

] Well said, all of it. Now if only those people exercising
] their right to free speech and assembly, protesting the war,
] could redirect their energy and emotion to supporting the
] troops...that would be awe inspiring.

It is possible to support the troops - especially in wishing them a safe and speedy completion to their mission - without supporting the administration that put them in harm's way. People enlist in the armed forces with the expectation that they will not be sent into battle without justification, so there should be no protest against them doing what they feel is right. It's also up to those of us left in the homeland to keep the administration in check.

Nanochick wrote:
] Please, regardless of your political feelings about this war,
] support our troops, no matter what. Stop and think about what
] they are doing for you. Through my tear-filled eyes, I see
] courage that I have never seen before. For the first time in
] my life, I see angels.

Don't forget the Highway of Death:

http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-death.htm

I worked with someone a few years ago who served in Gulf War I. He saw this massacre first hand. I think when he described it to me was when I started trying to see both sides. Don't forget that US troops committed war crimes in Gulf War I. War is hell.

Nanochick wrote:

] I guess I just wanted people to be aware of these pictures. I
] do not recommend looking at them, because it will only
] frustrate and sadden you, or perhaps make you angry. They are
] an important piece of history, but at the same time, they are
] a piece of history that leaves a horrible taste in your
] mouth...history that will probably give me nightmares.

no. Look at them. Show them to everyone you know. Broadcast the video on CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox News, CNBC, MSNBC, CBS, and HBO. Show people what war is really like.

I think the more unconscionable thing is the sanitized video game infortainment reporting that we're getting on this situation. This isn't fucking Saving Private Ryan. This is reality. And the more people who see that there are real people, with real bullets, and real brains getting splattered about, the more people will realize that this is the absolute worst endeavor humanity can apply itself to.

flynn23 wrote:
] I think the more unconscionable thing is the sanitized video
] game infortainment reporting that we're getting on this
] situation. This isn't fucking Saving Private Ryan. This is
] reality. And the more people who see that there are real
] people, with real bullets, and real brains getting splattered
] about, the more people will realize that this is the absolute
] worst endeavor humanity can apply itself to.

I'll second that opinion.

Nanochick wrote:
] Earlier today, I heard on CNN about the footage of the POWs,
] but CNN wasn't showing them due to their graphic nature.
] Memestreams now has these pictures, and without really
] thinking about it, I popped open the website to take a look at
] what CNN wouldn't show. Now that I have, I felt the need to
] vent, so here it is. Definitly stop and think about it before
] you look at these pictures. Because I don't think I will ever
] be able to get those images out of my head again, and I am
] consumed with a horrible feeling. Here I sit, with my freedom
] that I take for granted every day. Freedom that I don't even
] really think about, because it has never been taken away from
] me. When I look at those pictures, they make me want to puke.
] Not because of the images themselves, as grotesque as they
] are. I want to throw up and cry because of what they
] represent. These are pictures of people who have obviously
] been tortured, and who have consequently been killed,
] execution style. These are people that were killed this way
] protecting my freedom.
] Now I am left with a horrible feeling. Since this war started,
] I, like many of you, have been glued to CNN. I have watched
] this war unfold from the days leading up to it, to the
] unexpected wed. night attacks in Baghdad, to what it has
] unfolded to now. It makes me feel strange to watch a war from
] the comfort of my own home. And now that I have looked at
] those pictures, this has been driven home to me.
] I feel powerless. I feel frustrated. And I feel my freedom,
] wrapped around me like a protective blanket....a blanket
] weaved with souls.
]
] I guess I just wanted people to be aware of these pictures. I
] do not recommend looking at them, because it will only
] frustrate and sadden you, or perhaps make you angry. They are
] an important piece of history, but at the same time, they are
] a piece of history that leaves a horrible taste in your
] mouth...history that will probably give me nightmares.
]
] Please, regardless of your political feelings about this war,
] support our troops, no matter what. Stop and think about what
] they are doing for you. Through my tear-filled eyes, I see
] courage that I have never seen before. For the first time in
] my life, I see angels.
]
]
] -Nanochick

What is the url?

cyantist wrote:
] Nanochick wrote:
] ] Earlier today, I heard on CNN about the footage of the POWs,
]
] ] but CNN wasn't showing them due to their graphic nature.
] ] Memestreams now has these pictures, and without really
] ] thinking about it, I popped open the website to take a look
] at
] ] what CNN wouldn't show. Now that I have, I felt the need to
] ] vent, so here it is. Definitly stop and think about it
] before
] ] you look at these pictures. Because I don't think I will
] ever
] ] be able to get those images out of my head again, and I am
] ] consumed with a horrible feeling. Here I sit, with my
] freedom
] ] that I take for granted every day. Freedom that I don't even
]
] ] really think about, because it has never been taken away
] from
] ] me. When I look at those pictures, they make me want to
] puke.
] ] Not because of the images themselves, as grotesque as they
] ] are. I want to throw up and cry because of what they
] ] represent. These are pictures of people who have obviously
] ] been tortured, and who have consequently been killed,
] ] execution style. These are people that were killed this way
] ] protecting my freedom.
] ] Now I am left with a horrible feeling. Since this war
] started,
] ] I, like many of you, have been glued to CNN. I have watched
] ] this war unfold from the days leading up to it, to the
] ] unexpected wed. night attacks in Baghdad, to what it has
] ] unfolded to now. It makes me feel strange to watch a war
] from
] ] the comfort of my own home. And now that I have looked at
] ] those pictures, this has been driven home to me.
] ] I feel powerless. I feel frustrated. And I feel my freedom,
] ] wrapped around me like a protective blanket....a blanket
] ] weaved with souls.
] ]
] ] I guess I just wanted people to be aware of these pictures.
] I
] ] do not recommend looking at them, because it will only
] ] frustrate and sadden you, or perhaps make you angry. They
] are
] ] an important piece of history, but at the same time, they
] are
] ] a piece of history that leaves a horrible taste in your
] ] mouth...history that will probably give me nightmares.
] ]
] ] Please, regardless of your political feelings about this
] war,
] ] support our troops, no matter what. Stop and think about
] what
] ] they are doing for you. Through my tear-filled eyes, I see
] ] courage that I have never seen before. For the first time in
]
] ] my life, I see angels.
] ]
] ]
] ] -Nanochick
]
] What is the url?

Its under Rattles memestream