Jello wrote:

I'm not sure Google's new Chrome OS announcement is that big a deal, or that the eventual product that gets released will actually have that much impact, but it's a useful milestone in marking Google's evolution towards becoming an older company with a distinctly different culture than they used to have.

This is, for lack of a better term, Google's "Microsoft Moment". This is the point when the difference between their internal conception of the company starts to diverge just a bit too far from the public perception of the company, and even starts to diverge from reality. At this inflection point, the reasons for doing new things at Google start to change.

The problem here is that in combination with Wave, Google is setting the platform that we are supposed to develop for a year or more before it exists. That IRRITATES the hell out of me. It is the same kind of egotistical douschebaggery Microsoft used to pull: pre-launching products to gain control before contributing anything.

Watching the Wave introduction video... when I see that semi-euro, T-shirt wearing trim-bearded fuck up there on that stage with his falsely elegant peppy smart talk planning a 'boating trip', and the scripted passing back and forth with 'the best project manager in the world,' I see one thing and one thing only in my mind: Ballmer's sweaty bitch tits bouncing as he stomps and screams, vibrating to the tune of "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!"

At least Ballmer had the good sense to be ugly, which gave him an odd kind of dignity.

I think I prefer this stagecraft http://bit.ly/pwGXs to this stagecraft http://bit.ly/15aSar because Google's culture of arrogance is starting to disgust me.

If you bought into the whole "don't be evil" bullshit and the rounding up of PhD's as if they were onto some enlightened quest to create the world's future all at one company, then you're as gullible as an Apple fanboi.

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

I'm not sure Google's new Chrome OS announcement is that big a deal, or that the eventual product that gets released will actually have that much impact, but it's a useful milestone in marking Google's evolution towards becoming an older company with a distinctly different culture than they used to have.

This is, for lack of a better term, Google's "Microsoft Moment". This is the point when the difference between their internal conception of the company starts to diverge just a bit too far from the public perception of the company, and even starts to diverge from reality. At this inflection point, the reasons for doing new things at Google start to change.

The problem here is that in combination with Wave, Google is setting the platform that we are supposed to develop for a year or more before it exists. That IRRITATES the hell out of me. It is the same kind of egotistical douschebaggery Microsoft used to pull: pre-launching products to gain control before contributing anything.

Watching the Wave introduction video... when I see that semi-euro, T-shirt wearing trim-bearded fuck up there on that stage with his falsely elegant peppy smart talk planning a 'boating trip', and the scripted passing back and forth with 'the best project manager in the world,' I see one thing and one thing only in my mind: Ballmer's sweaty bitch tits bouncing as he stomps and screams, vibrating to the tune of "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!"

At least Ballmer had the good sense to be ugly, which gave him an odd kind of dignity.

I think I prefer this stagecraft http://bit.ly/pwGXs to this stagecraft http://bit.ly/15aSar because Google's culture of arrogance is starting to disgust me.

If you bought into the whole "don't be evil" bullshit and the rounding up of PhD's as if they were onto some enlightened quest to create the world's future all at one company, then you're as gullible as an Apple fanboi.

Google stayed quite nice for quite a while, unlike their predecessor.

Jello wrote:

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

I'm not sure Google's new Chrome OS announcement is that big a deal, or that the eventual product that gets released will actually have that much impact, but it's a useful milestone in marking Google's evolution towards becoming an older company with a distinctly different culture than they used to have.

This is, for lack of a better term, Google's "Microsoft Moment". This is the point when the difference between their internal conception of the company starts to diverge just a bit too far from the public perception of the company, and even starts to diverge from reality. At this inflection point, the reasons for doing new things at Google start to change.

The problem here is that in combination with Wave, Google is setting the platform that we are supposed to develop for a year or more before it exists. That IRRITATES the hell out of me. It is the same kind of egotistical douschebaggery Microsoft used to pull: pre-launching products to gain control before contributing anything.

Watching the Wave introduction video... when I see that semi-euro, T-shirt wearing trim-bearded fuck up there on that stage with his falsely elegant peppy smart talk planning a 'boating trip', and the scripted passing back and forth with 'the best project manager in the world,' I see one thing and one thing only in my mind: Ballmer's sweaty bitch tits bouncing as he stomps and screams, vibrating to the tune of "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!"

At least Ballmer had the good sense to be ugly, which gave him an odd kind of dignity.

I think I prefer this stagecraft http://bit.ly/pwGXs to this stagecraft http://bit.ly/15aSar because Google's culture of arrogance is starting to disgust me.

If you bought into the whole "don't be evil" bullshit and the rounding up of PhD's as if they were onto some enlightened quest to create the world's future all at one company, then you're as gullible as an Apple fanboi.

Google stayed quite nice for quite a while, unlike their predecessor.

puhleeze. This was a calculated marketing scheme that played off of Sergey and Larry's ideals but was more interested in attracting anti-Microsoft press, talent, and support. The company has failed to get into any other business that makes money or direct strategic relevance other than search. And as we've all seen before, it's a "what have you done for me lately" business. Right now, there's probably some kid in her basement which has a better algorithm for search, and I'm sure John Doerr wants to find her ASAP.

This despite the collection of "smart people", 20% play time, and ridiculous employee perks. If I was a shareholder (and I'm not any more), I'd demand the board get their shit together and start issuing a dividend or show me how they're going to continue their growth rate to support their exorbitant PE ratio.

The sad thing is that a bunch of great businesses and wealth creation engines has probably already LEFT Google.

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

I'm not sure Google's new Chrome OS announcement is that big a deal, or that the eventual product that gets released will actually have that much impact, but it's a useful milestone in marking Google's evolution towards becoming an older company with a distinctly different culture than they used to have.

This is, for lack of a better term, Google's "Microsoft Moment". This is the point when the difference between their internal conception of the company starts to diverge just a bit too far from the public perception of the company, and even starts to diverge from reality. At this inflection point, the reasons for doing new things at Google start to change.

The problem here is that in combination with Wave, Google is setting the platform that we are supposed to develop for a year or more before it exists. That IRRITATES the hell out of me. It is the same kind of egotistical douschebaggery Microsoft used to pull: pre-launching products to gain control before contributing anything.

Watching the Wave introduction video... when I see that semi-euro, T-shirt wearing trim-bearded fuck up there on that stage with his falsely elegant peppy smart talk planning a 'boating trip', and the scripted passing back and forth with 'the best project manager in the world,' I see one thing and one thing only in my mind: Ballmer's sweaty bitch tits bouncing as he stomps and screams, vibrating to the tune of "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!"

At least Ballmer had the good sense to be ugly, which gave him an odd kind of dignity.

I think I prefer this stagecraft http://bit.ly/pwGXs to this stagecraft http://bit.ly/15aSar because Google's culture of arrogance is starting to disgust me.

If you bought into the whole "don't be evil" bullshit and the rounding up of PhD's as if they were onto some enlightened quest to create the world's future all at one company, then you're as gullible as an Apple fanboi.

Google stayed quite nice for quite a while, unlike their predecessor.

puhleeze. This was a calculated marketing scheme that played off of Sergey and Larry's ideals but was more interested in attracting anti-Microsoft press, talent, and support. The company has failed to get into any other business that makes money or direct strategic relevance other than search. And as we've all seen before, it's a "what have you done for me lately" business. Right now, there's probably some kid in her basement which has a better algorithm for search, and I'm sure John Doerr wants to find her ASAP.

This despite the collection of "smart people", 20% play time, and ridiculous employee perks. If I was a shareholder (and I'm not any more), I'd demand the board get their shit together and start issuing a dividend or show me how they're going to continue their growth rate to support their exorbitant PE ratio.

The sad thing is that a bunch of great businesses and wealth creation engines has probably already LEFT Google.

You can spin it any way you want - MS always fucked me over. Google hasn't.

Jello wrote:

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

I'm not sure Google's new Chrome OS announcement is that big a deal, or that the eventual product that gets released will actually have that much impact, but it's a useful milestone in marking Google's evolution towards becoming an older company with a distinctly different culture than they used to have.

This is, for lack of a better term, Google's "Microsoft Moment". This is the point when the difference between their internal conception of the company starts to diverge just a bit too far from the public perception of the company, and even starts to diverge from reality. At this inflection point, the reasons for doing new things at Google start to change.

The problem here is that in combination with Wave, Google is setting the platform that we are supposed to develop for a year or more before it exists. That IRRITATES the hell out of me. It is the same kind of egotistical douschebaggery Microsoft used to pull: pre-launching products to gain control before contributing anything.

Watching the Wave introduction video... when I see that semi-euro, T-shirt wearing trim-bearded fuck up there on that stage with his falsely elegant peppy smart talk planning a 'boating trip', and the scripted passing back and forth with 'the best project manager in the world,' I see one thing and one thing only in my mind: Ballmer's sweaty bitch tits bouncing as he stomps and screams, vibrating to the tune of "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!"

At least Ballmer had the good sense to be ugly, which gave him an odd kind of dignity.

I think I prefer this stagecraft http://bit.ly/pwGXs to this stagecraft http://bit.ly/15aSar because Google's culture of arrogance is starting to disgust me.

If you bought into the whole "don't be evil" bullshit and the rounding up of PhD's as if they were onto some enlightened quest to create the world's future all at one company, then you're as gullible as an Apple fanboi.

Google stayed quite nice for quite a while, unlike their predecessor.

puhleeze. This was a calculated marketing scheme that played off of Sergey and Larry's ideals but was more interested in attracting anti-Microsoft press, talent, and support. The company has failed to get into any other business that makes money or direct strategic relevance other than search. And as we've all seen before, it's a "what have you done for me lately" business. Right now, there's probably some kid in her basement which has a better algorithm for search, and I'm sure John Doerr wants to find her ASAP.

This despite the collection of "smart people", 20% play time, and ridiculous employee perks. If I was a shareholder (and I'm not any more), I'd demand the board get their shit together and start issuing a dividend or show me how they're going to continue their growth rate to support their exorbitant PE ratio.

The sad thing is that a bunch of great businesses and wealth creation engines has probably already LEFT Google.

You can spin it any way you want - MS always fucked me over. Google hasn't.

oh they have. you just haven't noticed yet.