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The Scientist :: The People's Biology, Feb. 24, 2003
by Dr. Nanochick at 8:33 pm EST, Feb 24, 2003 |
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Systems biologists envision a hulking database where all biological knowledge can be stored, freely accessed, and designed to interact. From it, researchers could easily extract data to construct virtual molecular pathway models working in their respective networks and in dynamic contexts of time, space, and various environmental cues. Hypotheses could be plucked like apples from the electronic tree of knowledge, and drug targets would fall like leaves. Some want to play out this tremendous vision, but they know it cannot be done at a single lab, by a single investigator. Members of Alliance for Cellular Signaling (AfCS), call for a new scientific world order--a shift toward socialist science.
==== I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it socialist science! However, this sort of information system sounds extremely powerful. [well, it would be social science in that with that system, all of the scientists who used that system would be "collaborating". It may help in progressing science at a fast rate...I don't know. But with "drug targets falling like leaves", I think it would make competition stiffer, which would lead to more secrecy of drug companies, make people file for patents earlier than ever before, etc, etc. Hmm.
On a lighter note, you should check out this site just to see the image they have that I guess is supposed to symbolize socialist science. A big red hand in a fist holding a pipetman. I would *kill* to have that in poster size. - Nano] |
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RE: The Scientist :: The People's Biology, Feb. 24, 2003
by flynn23 at 3:30 am EST, Feb 25, 2003 |
Nanochick wrote:
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] Systems biologists envision a hulking database where all
] biological knowledge can be stored, freely accessed, and
] designed to interact. From it, researchers could easily
] extract data to construct virtual molecular pathway models
] working in their respective networks and in dynamic contexts
] of time, space, and various environmental cues. Hypotheses
] could be plucked like apples from the electronic tree of
] knowledge, and drug targets would fall like leaves. Some want
] to play out this tremendous vision, but they know it cannot be
] done at a single lab, by a single investigator. Members of
] Alliance for Cellular Signaling (AfCS), call for a new
] scientific world order--a shift toward socialist science.
] ====
]
] I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it socialist science!
] However, this sort of information system sounds extremely
] powerful.
]
] [well, it would be social science in that with that system,
] all of the scientists who used that system would be
] "collaborating". It may help in progressing science at a fast
] rate...I don't know. But with "drug targets falling like
] leaves", I think it would make competition stiffer, which
] would lead to more secrecy of drug companies, make people file
] for patents earlier than ever before, etc, etc. Hmm.
] On a lighter note, you should check out this site just to see
] the image they have that I guess is supposed to symbolize
] socialist science. A big red hand in a fist holding a
] pipetman. I would *kill* to have that in poster size. - Nano] This is *exactly* what I've been talking about for years in the intellectual property arena. Get rid of patents and copyright altogether. Build systems that allow various sciences and arts to interact and collaborate as freely as possible, and let creativity do the rest. It would ushur in a new age of discovery that we can't even imagine. Many doctrines of science already have limited forms of this (astronomy and astrophysics come to mind), but it could be expanded even further. The ability to test results, particulary in this case in the pharma world, would drastically reduce costs and eliminate the need for patents. It would end up being who could produce the required quality and get it to market cheapest that would win. Which, in the end, is what it's all supposed to be about. Science would become a worldwide collective endeavor, 24/7/365, and humanity would benefit. Results would be as available as oranges and apples growing on trees. |
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The Scientist :: The People's Biology, Feb. 24, 2003
by Darwin at 3:42 pm EST, Feb 24, 2003 |
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Systems biologists envision a hulking database where all biological knowledge can be stored, freely accessed, and designed to interact. From it, researchers could easily extract data to construct virtual molecular pathway models working in their respective networks and in dynamic contexts of time, space, and various environmental cues. Hypotheses could be plucked like apples from the electronic tree of knowledge, and drug targets would fall like leaves. Some want to play out this tremendous vision, but they know it cannot be done at a single lab, by a single investigator. Members of Alliance for Cellular Signaling (AfCS), call for a new scientific world order--a shift toward socialist science. ... The real difficulty, however, could lie in redirecting the scientific mind from individual to collective. The AfCS comprises more than 50 investigators from 20 academic and industrial institutions, and has garnered financial support from pharmaceutical companies such as Eli Lily and Company and Johnson & Johnson. Gilman, who won the 1994 Nobel Prize for discovering G proteins asks, "Can we get the community to behave in a benevolent, interactive, cooperative manner? Only time will tell." |
The Scientist :: The People's Biology, Feb. 24, 2003
by Decius at 8:06 pm EST, Feb 24, 2003 |
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Systems biologists envision a hulking database where all biological knowledge can be stored, freely accessed, and designed to interact. From it, researchers could easily extract data to construct virtual molecular pathway models working in their respective networks and in dynamic contexts of time, space, and various environmental cues. Hypotheses could be plucked like apples from the electronic tree of knowledge, and drug targets would fall like leaves. Some want to play out this tremendous vision, but they know it cannot be done at a single lab, by a single investigator. Members of Alliance for Cellular Signaling (AfCS), call for a new scientific world order--a shift toward socialist science.
==== I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it socialist science! However, this sort of information system sounds extremely powerful. |
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