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This page contains all of the posts and discussion on MemeStreams referencing the following web page: Boxes and Arrows: Visible Narratives: Understanding Visual Organization. You can find discussions on MemeStreams as you surf the web, even if you aren't a MemeStreams member, using the Threads Bookmarklet.

Boxes and Arrows: Visible Narratives: Understanding Visual Organization
by crankymessiah at 1:36 pm EST, Feb 13, 2003

] Art vs. engineering. Aesthetics vs. usability. Usability
] experts are from Mars, graphic designers are from Venus .
] The debate between design (of the visual sort) and design
] (of the technical sort) remains ongoing. A website,
] however, can't take sides: it needs both to be
] successful.

This is for my own reference but feel free to check it out.