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RE: Now Corporations Claim The 'Right To Lie'
by Decius at 2:43 pm EST, Jan 10, 2003

] Well yes, thank you, it is commercial speech. That's the
] whole point, not that the beleaguered rich don't have a right
] to free speech. Nike argues that they have a right to false
] advertising because they are a corporation-that-is-a-person
] with first amendment protection from false advertising suits.

No, thats not accurate. Nike claims that the speech in question is political in nature and therefore is not advertising. Not that "false advertising rules don't apply to them," but that this isn't advertising, and therefore false advertising rules don't apply in this context.

] If theyThat's exactly why corporations should not be
] treated as legal persons, only natural human beings should be.

This is a sheilded way of saying that corporations ought to have no legal rights... IE the police should be allow to shut down the press when they don't like what is being said... The FBI should be able to raid a church without a warrant.

] A church is
] not a corporation, the cub scouts and PTA are not
] corporations; a corporation has a specific definition and
] purpose.

Every church in the United States IS actually a corporation. The Cubs Scouts of America are most certainly a corporation. I'm not being stupid here. These people have actually filed Articles of Incorporation with a State in this country and they actually have a Tax ID number. They actually really really are corporations.

If, by PTA, you mean your local parent teacher association, it is unlikely that they would be incorporated, but it is possible. Obviously this is a case by case issue.

The Nashville Linux Users Group is a corporation. They filed because it allows people to make tax deductable donations that support their efforts. Do you think they should have free speech protections? How about search and seizure?

] The history of the corporation, which the article
] explores, makes it pretty clear what the thinking was about
] monied industrial concerns.

"Monied industrial concerns" is not a legal term. Corporation is. When you are talking about whether corporations have legal rights, and you are making arguements that are based in the law, then you are talking about corporations in the context of the law. Any legal entity in the United States which is not a government entity, an individual, or an estate is a corporation, which means that it has Articles of InCorporation filed with the State.

] It's just a fact that the rich have more access and more power.

This much is true, but it has nothing at all to do with whether corporations as they are legally defined do or do not have rights as they are legally defined.

RE: Now Corporations Claim The 'Right To Lie'


 
 
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