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Formula 1 Racing to Go Hybrid from 2009-2013
by Worthersee at 2:04 pm EDT, Apr 22, 2008

It’s not quite the same type of hybrid drive-train you’d see in street vehicles, but in an exciting announcement, Max Mosely of F1 has announced that all cars will become hybrid by 2013, along with other changes to the vehicles.

The hybrid system that will be phased in is known as KERS, which stands for Kenetic Energy Recovery System. KERS doesn’t store as much energy as a traditional hybrid system, but it only weighs 55 pounds and the limited energy storage capacity is well suited for Formula-style racing.

The biggest difference between KERS and a regular battery-electric hybrid is that KERS stores recovered waste energy in a rotating flywheel. Instead of converting waste energy into electricity and than back into useful energy again with an electric motor, KERS simply transfers the kenetic energy to a ~5kg flywheel in the F1 car’s transmission. The energy stored in the flywheel can then be used by the driver by pushing a “boost” button.

Just what F1 cars need... More boost.


 
RE: Formula 1 Racing to Go Hybrid from 2009-2013
by Lost at 5:03 am EDT, Apr 23, 2008

Worthersee wrote:

It’s not quite the same type of hybrid drive-train you’d see in street vehicles, but in an exciting announcement, Max Mosely of F1 has announced that all cars will become hybrid by 2013, along with other changes to the vehicles.

The hybrid system that will be phased in is known as KERS, which stands for Kenetic Energy Recovery System. KERS doesn’t store as much energy as a traditional hybrid system, but it only weighs 55 pounds and the limited energy storage capacity is well suited for Formula-style racing.

The biggest difference between KERS and a regular battery-electric hybrid is that KERS stores recovered waste energy in a rotating flywheel. Instead of converting waste energy into electricity and than back into useful energy again with an electric motor, KERS simply transfers the kenetic energy to a ~5kg flywheel in the F1 car’s transmission. The energy stored in the flywheel can then be used by the driver by pushing a “boost” button.

Just what F1 cars need... More boost.

F1 is like the space program for cars - it creates technology that trickles down to normal automobiles. This is a very, very good thing, as that track is the best lab there is for the development of greener automobiles.

As a fan - any additional manual controls are welcomed by me, as it makes it harder on the driver.


  
RE: Formula 1 Racing to Go Hybrid from 2009-2013
by flynn23 at 9:35 am EDT, Apr 23, 2008

Jello wrote:

Worthersee wrote:

It’s not quite the same type of hybrid drive-train you’d see in street vehicles, but in an exciting announcement, Max Mosely of F1 has announced that all cars will become hybrid by 2013, along with other changes to the vehicles.

The hybrid system that will be phased in is known as KERS, which stands for Kenetic Energy Recovery System. KERS doesn’t store as much energy as a traditional hybrid system, but it only weighs 55 pounds and the limited energy storage capacity is well suited for Formula-style racing.

The biggest difference between KERS and a regular battery-electric hybrid is that KERS stores recovered waste energy in a rotating flywheel. Instead of converting waste energy into electricity and than back into useful energy again with an electric motor, KERS simply transfers the kenetic energy to a ~5kg flywheel in the F1 car’s transmission. The energy stored in the flywheel can then be used by the driver by pushing a “boost” button.

Just what F1 cars need... More boost.

F1 is like the space program for cars - it creates technology that trickles down to normal automobiles. This is a very, very good thing, as that track is the best lab there is for the development of greener automobiles.

As a fan - any additional manual controls are welcomed by me, as it makes it harder on the driver.

Yes and no. There's no question that a lot of R&D comes from F1, but that doesn't mean that it's translated into production line products. I mean, the top teams the last few years have been McLaren, Renault, and Ferrari. Not exactly main stays in every garage (even in Europe and Asia). Most of the tech that comes out of F1 is around structural materials and suspension. Pretty much the last innovations to hit street cars were traction control and variable valve timing, which is still only on high end cars ($40K+).

I think the real motivation behind this is sponsorship dollars. F1 is a FRIGGIN HUGE business, and many of the top corporate sponsors are scrambling to be seen as 'green' and ecologically sensitive. Particularly if you're involved in the automotive business. So there's probably some pressure from sponsors to 'green up' the series to tie into their other marketing efforts.

No word yet on whether the fly wheel will have a swastika on it. =/


   
RE: Formula 1 Racing to Go Hybrid from 2009-2013
by Lost at 2:16 pm EDT, Apr 23, 2008

flynn23 wrote:

Jello wrote:

Worthersee wrote:

It’s not quite the same type of hybrid drive-train you’d see in street vehicles, but in an exciting announcement, Max Mosely of F1 has announced that all cars will become hybrid by 2013, along with other changes to the vehicles.

The hybrid system that will be phased in is known as KERS, which stands for Kenetic Energy Recovery System. KERS doesn’t store as much energy as a traditional hybrid system, but it only weighs 55 pounds and the limited energy storage capacity is well suited for Formula-style racing.

The biggest difference between KERS and a regular battery-electric hybrid is that KERS stores recovered waste energy in a rotating flywheel. Instead of converting waste energy into electricity and than back into useful energy again with an electric motor, KERS simply transfers the kenetic energy to a ~5kg flywheel in the F1 car’s transmission. The energy stored in the flywheel can then be used by the driver by pushing a “boost” button.

Just what F1 cars need... More boost.

F1 is like the space program for cars - it creates technology that trickles down to normal automobiles. This is a very, very good thing, as that track is the best lab there is for the development of greener automobiles.

As a fan - any additional manual controls are welcomed by me, as it makes it harder on the driver.

Yes and no. There's no question that a lot of R&D comes from F1, but that doesn't mean that it's translated into production line products. I mean, the top teams the last few years have been McLaren, Renault, and Ferrari. Not exactly main stays in every garage (even in Europe and Asia). Most of the tech that comes out of F1 is around structural materials and suspension. Pretty much the last innovations to hit street cars were traction control and variable valve timing, which is still only on high end cars ($40K+).

I think the real motivation behind this is sponsorship dollars. F1 is a FRIGGIN HUGE business, and many of the top corporate sponsors are scrambling to be seen as 'green' and ecologically sensitive. Particularly if you're involved in the automotive business. So there's probably some pressure from sponsors to 'green up' the series to tie into their other marketing efforts.

No word yet on whether the fly wheel will have a swastika on it. =/

Actually, every Honda now made, and many for the last 15 years, have variable valve timing (and the ones for t... [ Read More (0.2k in body) ]


 
RE: Formula 1 Racing to Go Hybrid from 2009-2013
by Vile at 1:30 am EDT, Apr 24, 2008

Worthersee wrote:

It’s not quite the same type of hybrid drive-train you’d see in street vehicles, but in an exciting announcement, Max Mosely of F1 has announced that all cars will become hybrid by 2013, along with other changes to the vehicles.

The hybrid system that will be phased in is known as KERS, which stands for Kenetic Energy Recovery System. KERS doesn’t store as much energy as a traditional hybrid system, but it only weighs 55 pounds and the limited energy storage capacity is well suited for Formula-style racing.

The biggest difference between KERS and a regular battery-electric hybrid is that KERS stores recovered waste energy in a rotating flywheel. Instead of converting waste energy into electricity and than back into useful energy again with an electric motor, KERS simply transfers the kenetic energy to a ~5kg flywheel in the F1 car’s transmission. The energy stored in the flywheel can then be used by the driver by pushing a “boost” button.

Just what F1 cars need... More boost.

How dare you post this white trash shit here, man. Who the fuck do you think you are, WE think you should leave this site, forever!~


Formula 1 Racing to Go Hybrid from 2009-2013
by Lost at 5:04 am EDT, Apr 23, 2008

KERS is particularly exciting for us regular car drivers because the creators have claimed that it is twice as efficient as a standard hybrid system. If this system can be applied to production vehicles, it will be possible to realize huge improvements in fuel economy and pretty respectable reductions in GHG emissions.


 
 
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