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It always irks me...
by Decius at 4:15 pm EST, Jan 19, 2008

...that there is one word for "civil liberties" and another word for "civil rights".

Aren't they really the same thing? In a way, the present usage makes the former sound somehow less important...


 
RE: It always irks me...
by CypherGhost at 5:11 pm EST, Jan 19, 2008

Decius wrote:
...that there is one word for "civil liberties" and another word for "civil rights".

Aren't they really the same thing? In a way, the present usage makes the former sound somehow less important...

My non-lawyer opinion is that "liberties" are actions you can excercise (like free speech) whereas "rights" includes things that you don't necessarily do (right to a fair trail).


  
RE: It always irks me...
by Decius at 8:56 am EST, Jan 20, 2008

CypherGhost wrote:

Decius wrote:
...that there is one word for "civil liberties" and another word for "civil rights".

Aren't they really the same thing? In a way, the present usage makes the former sound somehow less important...

My non-lawyer opinion is that "liberties" are actions you can excercise (like free speech) whereas "rights" includes things that you don't necessarily do (right to a fair trail).

What about the right to vote?


 
 
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