Decius wrote:
The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

If I'm around when the greenhouse/ice age comes, I think I'll just move to the International Space Station (BYO computer chips).

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

I've been saying New Orleans should start doing exactly this. It's the fastest way toward having the worlds first undersea city.

terratogen wrote:

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

I've been saying New Orleans should start doing exactly this. It's the fastest way toward having the worlds first undersea city.

Hear hear. Underground is the way to proceed.

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

Dagmar - I'm with you... "Hedgehogs Unite!"

dc0de wrote:

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

Dagmar - I'm with you... "Hedgehogs Unite!"

Dome. It worked in Logan's Run didn't it?

Mike the Usurper wrote:

dc0de wrote:

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

Dagmar - I'm with you... "Hedgehogs Unite!"

Dome. It worked in Logan's Run didn't it?

Nah, deeper, like 3 to 4 hundred feet.

stable temperatures, and thermal heating in some areas... and besides, we could put heat exchangers on the surface, and heat up the underground...

Take a 3' diameter bundle of fiber optic, and bury it straight down, to transfer sunlight into the dark areas. sounds great to me...

dc0de wrote:

Mike the Usurper wrote:

dc0de wrote:

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

Dagmar - I'm with you... "Hedgehogs Unite!"

Dome. It worked in Logan's Run didn't it?

Nah, deeper, like 3 to 4 hundred feet.

stable temperatures, and thermal heating in some areas... and besides, we could put heat exchangers on the surface, and heat up the underground...

Take a 3' diameter bundle of fiber optic, and bury it straight down, to transfer sunlight into the dark areas. sounds great to me...

Go look and see how many KW of energy you can get in a given space in the US for photovoltaic power. This is how much light you can expect to get from the above fiber bundle. 5KW/sq ft / 8 hrs doesn't add up to much when spread out...

Catonic wrote:
Go look and see how many KW of energy you can get in a given space in the US for photovoltaic power. This is how much light you can expect to get from the above fiber bundle. 5KW/sq ft / 8 hrs doesn't add up to much when spread out...

This is to see by, not to power our microwaves and hair dryers.

Catonic wrote:

dc0de wrote:

Mike the Usurper wrote:

dc0de wrote:

Dagmar wrote:

Decius wrote:

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada. As a country at the northern limit to agriculture in the world, it would take very little cooling to destroy much of our food crops, while a warming would only require that we adopt farming techniques practiced to the south of us.

The earth is, in fact, way overdue for an ice age... So perhaps we should actually increase greenhouse gas emmisions, killing the ozone layer, and thus trapping heat during the long, long solar winter that approaches.

Fuck all that. Start digging and build underground.

Dagmar - I'm with you... "Hedgehogs Unite!"

Dome. It worked in Logan's Run didn't it?

Nah, deeper, like 3 to 4 hundred feet.

stable temperatures, and thermal heating in some areas... and besides, we could put heat exchangers on the surface, and heat up the underground...

Take a 3' diameter bundle of fiber optic, and bury it straight down, to transfer sunlight into the dark areas. sounds great to me...

Go look and see how many KW of energy you can get in a given space in the US for photovoltaic power. This is how much light you can expect to get from the above fiber bundle. 5KW/sq ft / 8 hrs doesn't add up to much when spread out...

Oh well, it would just be for light... there are similar systems for home use...

Who wants to live forever?