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Select transcript of Ron Paul's remarks on the Iraq war at the 5/15/07 Republican debate
by Hijexx at 6:45 pm EDT, May 16, 2007

Ron Paul's statements during the debate are being twisted by the major media in an attempt to put words in his mouth. Most of the spin is that Rep. Paul suggests that America invited the 9/11 attacks.

I've excerpted the Q&A below. Most of the articles I've seen do not quote the entirety of Rep. Paul's statements nor the context.

I did not interpret this as him saying America invited 9/11, so much as that our foreign policy inevitably leads to blowback.

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MR. WALLACE: Congressman Paul, you're one of six House Republicans who back in 2002 voted against authorizing President Bush to use force in Iraq.

REP. PAUL: Right.

MR. WALLACE: Now you say we should pull our troops out. A recent poll found that 77 percent of Republicans disapprove of the idea of setting a timetable for withdrawal. Are you running for the nomination of the wrong party? (Scattered laughter.)

REP. PAUL: But you have to realize that the base of the Republican Party shrunk last year because of the war issue. So that percentage represents less people. If you look at 65 to 70 percent of the American people, they want us out of there. They want the war over.

In 19- -- 2002, I offerer an amendment to International Relations to declare war, up or down, and it was -- nobody voted for the war. And my argument there was, if we want to go to war, and if we should go to war, the Congress should declare it. We don't go to war like we did in Vietnam and Korea, because the wars never end. And I argued the case and made the point that it would be a quagmire if we go in.

Ronald Reagan in 1983 sent Marines into Lebanon, and he said he would never turn tail and run. A few months later, the Marines were killed, 241 were killed, and the Marines were taken out. And Reagan addressed this subject in his memoirs. And he says, "I said I would never turn tail and run." He says, "But I never realized the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics," and he changed his policy there.

We need the courage of a Ronald Reagan.

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MR. GOLER: Congressman Paul, I believe you are the only man on the stage who opposes the war in Iraq, who would bring the troops home as quickly as -- almost immediately, sir. Are you out of step with your party? Is your party out of step with the rest of the world? If either of those is the case, why are you seeking its nomination?

REP. PAUL: Well, I think the party has lost its way, because the conservative wing of the Republican Party always advocated a noninterventionist foreign policy.

Senator Robert Taft didn't even want to be in NATO. George Bush won the election in the year 2000 campaigning on a humble foreign policy -- no nation-building, no policing of the world. Republicans were elected to end the Korean War. The Republicans were elected to end the Vietnam War. There's a strong tradition of being anti-war in the Republican party. It is the consti... [ Read More (0.4k in body) ]


 
RE: Select transcript of Ron Paul's remarks on the Iraq war at the 5/15/07 Republican debate
by skullaria at 7:23 pm EDT, May 16, 2007

I thought Ron Paul did great during the debate, and I thought that Guiliani's response to him showed what a hothead he was.

I was suprised to see the media dismiss Ron Paul like he just 'failed' the debate. Yet, the poll on MSNBC was showing he was popular.

It felt like a disconnect - like the media was going one way and to hell with what the public thought.


  
RE: Select transcript of Ron Paul's remarks on the Iraq war at the 5/15/07 Republican debate
by k at 4:05 pm EDT, May 17, 2007

skullaria wrote:
I thought Ron Paul did great during the debate, and I thought that Guiliani's response to him showed what a hothead he was.

I was suprised to see the media dismiss Ron Paul like he just 'failed' the debate. Yet, the poll on MSNBC was showing he was popular.

It felt like a disconnect - like the media was going one way and to hell with what the public thought.

Imagine that...

The media want to set up the narrative that the Republican party is universally one of warmongering and Bush support, and so do a lot of Democrats, for what it's worth.

It's worth noting that not everyone is, but only if you don't have a blind agenda to pursue, as the media does these days.

I've long said that while the politicians and people have done their share in coarsening the debate in this country, the media have been derelict in keeping a rational head about things. More drama means more sales, and calm, reasoned, informed discussion bores people.

The free market fails when people want the wrong things.


 
 
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