KING: We're back with Bob Woodward. The book "State of Denial." Tell us about Rumsfeld talking about Mission Accomplished banner on the ship.

WOODWARD: This is May 1st, 2003, the very famous speech the president gave on the aircraft carrier, the Kennedy. You know there was that sign, Mission Accomplished. And I asked Rumsfeld about it and said he was -- Rumsfeld was in Baghdad and they sent him an advanced copy of the speech. And he said, I almost died because mission accomplished was in the speech. And he said, I got it out of the speech but I didn't get the sign down. Now they've always put out the story that it was the Navy that put up the sign. And there's the secretary of defense saying it was in the speech.

Let's remember, the entire time since this was done the shrubbery has said that this was done by the Navy, and the shrubbery had nothing to do with it. Chalk up yet another now documented lie.

This got completely out of control some unknown amount of time ago (I'm going to guess January 20th, 2001, but I may be off by a day or two) and since then it has simply been one disaster after another. This has been described as the worst presidency since James Buchanon. That is not going to be in any way accurate. Assuming these people don't stage a Reichstag fire, someone else is going to become President in 2009, and they're going to suddenly find out all the things these guys have been doing that we don't know about yet.