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Hacker Pranks at Defcon and Black Hat in Las Vegas Emphasize Computer Security
by possibly noteworthy at 8:53 am EDT, Aug 3, 2006

At last year's Black Hat, Cisco Systems Inc. tried to stop researcher Michael Lynn from speaking about a vulnerability that he said could let hackers virtually shut down the Internet.

Cisco managed to get pages documenting the flaw torn out of all 2,000 conference binders, but ultimately the biggest maker of Internet routing and switching equipment was unable to squelch Lynn's talk.

Isn't it nice to be mentioned alongside purple dye in swimming pools, the "wall of sheep", pouring cement into toilets, stealing payphones, and wiretapping ATMs?


 
RE: Hacker Pranks at Defcon and Black Hat in Las Vegas Emphasize Computer Security
by Decius at 10:21 am EDT, Aug 3, 2006

possibly noteworthy wrote:
wiretapping ATMs?

Thats a bunch of bullshit, btw. There was nothing wrong with the ATMs last year. Yes, they had the conference logo. The ATM operator let them put the conference logo on them. There was a guy who gave a talk in which he boasted about ATM hacking and there was a rumor going around that the ATMs had been hacked. That same rumor goes around every year. Every year I withdraw cash from those ATMs because they don't take credit cards. No one has ever stolen money from my account. Those alligator clips wouldn't do them much good with the encrypted connection! I'm not saying its impossible. I know how I would approach the problem, in fact. I'm just saying, no, they aren't actually doing that. If one of those guys knew how to do that it wouldn't just be a rumor. It would be a much, much bigger story then Mike Lynn.


  
RE: Hacker Pranks at Defcon and Black Hat in Las Vegas Emphasize Computer Security
by possibly noteworthy at 4:09 pm EDT, Aug 3, 2006

possibly noteworthy wrote:

wiretapping ATMs?

Decius wrote:

That's a bunch of bullshit, btw. ... If one of those guys knew how to do that it wouldn't just be a rumor. It would be a much, much bigger story than Mike Lynn.

I wasn't there, so I defer to you on the DEFCON situation last year.

However, independent of anything having to do with DEFCON, and regardless of the situation with wiretapping an ATM, it is worth pointing out that false-front ATM fraud is very real. [more, and more]

Vendors recognize this as a problem and are taking [weak] countermeasures.

Here's what Diebold does to protect you:

Opteva’s advanced function dispenser has been designed to have a variety of different surfaces and protrusions to make it difficult to add any kind of trapping device.


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