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CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by Rattle at 1:08 pm EDT, Apr 23, 2006 |
Parts of an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden aired Sunday on an Arabic-language TV network in which the al Qaeda leader attacks the West for cutting off funds to the Palestinian Hamas-led government and referred to a "crusader-Zionist war" against Islam.
Better text of the quote CNN's lead is based off can be found, via the New York Times. Maybe later in the day, a more complete transcript will be available somewhere. "The blockade which the West is imposing on the government of Hamas proves that there is a Zionist crusader war on Islam," the speaker on the tape said.
In this quote, he is basically saying that by cutting off the flow of money to Palestine, we have proved we are waging a war against Islam. To reason through this logic, if you can call it that, keep in mind that Hamas translates roughly to "God's Party". "I call on the mujahedeen [Islamic fighters] and their supporters, especially in Sudan and the Arabian peninsula, to prepare for a long war against the crusaders and plunderers in western Sudan. Our goal is not defending the Khartoum government but [to] defend Islam, its land and its people," the speaker said.
Looks like Bin Laden is down with re-branding the "Global War on Terrorism" as "The Long War". Furthermore, I've thought that Sudan is play significantly into things in the future for quite some time now.. Should I rename the "War on Terrorism" topic on MemeStreams to "The Long War"? |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by noteworthy at 4:49 pm EDT, Apr 23, 2006 |
Rattle wrote: Should I rename the "War on Terrorism" topic on MemeStreams to "The Long War"?
I would suggest creating a new topic; otherwise it will look like revisionism to relabel all of the older posts without the input of the people who made those posts. |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by Rattle at 5:17 pm EDT, Apr 23, 2006 |
I would suggest creating a new topic; otherwise it will look like revisionism to relabel all of the older posts without the input of the people who made those posts.
That's a reasonable argument. At least a majority of the people should agree. This is re-branding a war after all. A quick database query shows that there are 17 users who have posts under the "War on Terrorism" topic, and a large number of posts: 199 | decius
115 | nw
109 | jlm
109 | rattle
61 | elonka
53 | mairsil
36 | k
21 | rekna
19 | terratogen
18 | cyantist
15 | skullaria
5 | abaddon
5 | timball
4 | swater
4 | lclough23
2 | cogg
2 | seanhan I don't have a problem with creating a new topic. But I am interested in feedback and general opinion about re-branding the "War on Terrorism" to "The Long War". |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by Shannon at 5:46 pm EDT, Apr 23, 2006 |
Rattle wrote: I would suggest creating a new topic; otherwise it will look like revisionism to relabel all of the older posts without the input of the people who made those posts.
That's a reasonable argument. At least a majority of the people should agree. This is re-branding a war after all. A quick database query shows that there are 17 users who have posts under the "War on Terrorism" topic, and a large number of posts: 199 | decius
115 | nw
109 | jlm
109 | rattle
61 | elonka
53 | mairsil
36 | k
21 | rekna
19 | terratogen
18 | cyantist
15 | skullaria
5 | abaddon
5 | timball
4 | swater
4 | lclough23
2 | cogg
2 | seanhan I don't have a problem with creating a new topic. But I am interested in feedback and general opinion about re-branding the "War on Terrorism" to "The Long War".
I'd leave it as is untill you have tags worked out. The context of these buzzwords is almost "new speak" anyway, they almost always touch upon a larger issue |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by Decius at 6:07 pm EDT, Apr 23, 2006 |
I think the term "long war" should reach ubiquity before we cut over... It remains to be seen whether this term will gain traction... |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by Mike the Usurper at 4:58 am EDT, Apr 24, 2006 |
Rattle wrote: I would suggest creating a new topic; otherwise it will look like revisionism to relabel all of the older posts without the input of the people who made those posts.
That's a reasonable argument. At least a majority of the people should agree. This is re-branding a war after all. A quick database query shows that there are 17 users who have posts under the "War on Terrorism" topic, and a large number of posts: 199 | decius
115 | nw
109 | jlm
109 | rattle
61 | elonka
53 | mairsil
36 | k
21 | rekna
19 | terratogen
18 | cyantist
15 | skullaria
5 | abaddon
5 | timball
4 | swater
4 | lclough23
2 | cogg
2 | seanhan I don't have a problem with creating a new topic. But I am interested in feedback and general opinion about re-branding the "War on Terrorism" to "The Long War".
I would probably add a "War in Iraq" topic and break the topics into appropriately separate sections. Also, just because the administration keeps trying to find new ways to sell this fiasco doesn't mean it's any different than it was when this started. The old name works fine even if they do want to call it something else. |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by Elonka at 7:05 am EDT, Apr 24, 2006 |
I find the term "The Long War" pretty biased, myself, and would avoid using it. I'd stick with "War on Terrorism", or maybe sub categories such as "Al Qaeda" or "War in Iraq". Elonka |
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RE: CNN.com - Bin Laden approves of 'Long War' re-branding
by skullaria at 5:35 pm EDT, Apr 24, 2006 |
Elonka wrote:
I find the term "The Long War" pretty biased, myself, and would avoid using it. I'd stick with "War on Terrorism", or maybe sub categories such as "Al Qaeda" or "War in Iraq". Elonka
War in Iraq is pretty good. "The Long War" is not descriptive enough, and there's certainly been longer wars already. I'd personally call it
"The totally Fucked Up War That Accomplished Nothing and ENDED America's Global Supremecy" but people that would call me unpatriotic would just call me unpatriotic again.
I wonder to myself sometimes if we might see Bin Ladin using Bush as a step stool to get up on his proverbial high horse one day...but then I know that Bush would never actually GO AFTER Bin Ladin to put himself in that position in the first place. |
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