Catonic wrote:
Multiple restaurant managers fell for social engineering over the telephone, forcing employees to strip.

Crazy.

Newflash! Not everyone who's gullible is stupid!

I cut the manager some slack, but the girl's mother should have taught her better. Lesson 331: Don't get naked in McDonald's.

-janelane, backhanded

janelane wrote:

Newflash! Not everyone who's gullible is stupid!

I cut the manager some slack, but the girl's mother should have taught her better. Lesson 331: Don't get naked in McDonald's.

-janelane, backhanded

I still don't see how this is possible. I'll give benefit of doubt to the actual stripping, even though I don't see how anyone would just do something because random person on the phone asked them to. But the sexual abuse? They did that because they wanted to do it and this was their excuse. Anyone with a basic sense of right and wrong would not do that just because someone on the phone told them to. It would be different if there was an armed robber standing right there with a gun barking orders or some similar situation where threat was imminent. But this was just someone on the phone.

Hijexx wrote:

janelane wrote:

Newflash! Not everyone who's gullible is stupid!

I cut the manager some slack, but the girl's mother should have taught her better. Lesson 331: Don't get naked in McDonald's.

-janelane, backhanded

I still don't see how this is possible. I'll give benefit of doubt to the actual stripping, even though I don't see how anyone would just do something because random person on the phone asked them to. But the sexual abuse? They did that because they wanted to do it and this was their excuse. Anyone with a basic sense of right and wrong would not do that just because someone on the phone told them to. It would be different if there was an armed robber standing right there with a gun barking orders or some similar situation where threat was imminent. But this was just someone on the phone.

Not true, the Milgram obedience studies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) show that "normal" people that (we assume) have a reasonable concept of right and wrong respond to authority in frightening ways. Long story short, the people in these studies thought they were administering shocks to the subjects, many to a 'letal' level.

Anyway, the point is that people respond to authority, it's pretty much built in(to the society that we've been raised in... very much an environmental thing).

Erk, i'm running late -- but (hopefully) you see my point... it's not _that_ surprising what went on, just very sad.

falun wrote:

Not true, the Milgram obedience studies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment) show that "normal" people that (we assume) have a reasonable concept of right and wrong respond to authority in frightening ways. Long story short, the people in these studies thought they were administering shocks to the subjects, many to a 'letal' level.

Anyway, the point is that people respond to authority, it's pretty much built in(to the society that we've been raised in... very much an environmental thing).

Erk, i'm running late -- but (hopefully) you see my point... well, I don't know what my point is... I guess just that it's not _that_ surprising what went on.

I haven't read the study, but does it have experiments that involve sexual abuse? If not, we're talking apples to oranges here.

Catonic wrote:
Multiple restaurant managers fell for social engineering over the telephone, forcing employees to strip.

Crazy.

Holy F'ing Christ. That dude was one hell of a sociopath. I'd like to meet him :)