bucy wrote:

flynn23 wrote:

bucy wrote:

Bridget Dehl shushed her 21-month-old son, Gavin, then clapped a hand over his mouth to squelch his tiny screams amid the Sunday brunch bustle. When Gavin kept yelping "yeah, yeah, yeah," Ms. Dehl whisked him from his highchair and out the door.

Right past the sign warning the cafe's customers that "children of all ages have to behave and use their indoor voices when coming to A Taste of Heaven," and right into a nasty spat roiling the stroller set in Chicago's changing Andersonville neighborhood.

As far as I'm concerned, there's only one side to this issue. It is completely inconsiderate to take small children that can't be quiet, sit still, etc, into an adult establishment like a coffee shop where they proceed to irritate the piss out of everyone else there.

You obviously don't have children.

How about a library, then?

I can understand the importance of teaching children that there's a time to be quiet and a time when it's okay to be more expressive. It's a shame that most parents are horrible in teaching their children any sort of consideration whatsoever that they spoil it for those of us who attempt to do this. But let's face it, a kid is a kid. And there are times when they're not going to be quiet. When they don't understand decorum or manners or whatever social graces you want to call it.

I think it's good for kids to go to places like libraries, coffee shops, book stores, restaurants, and other social activities. They need to be part of the world and understand it as early as possible. But a 3 year old doesn't give a shit about your mid term that you're studying for when she has a wet diaper, is tired, and hot. At the end of the day, a child is a living being that cannot be controlled or manipulated past a certain point. Just like adults.

RE: At Center of a Clash, Rowdy Children in Coffee Shops