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Daily Kos: The waning influence of the NYT Times columnists
by Decius at 6:15 pm EDT, Oct 11, 2005

The graph tracks blog mentions of Paul Krugman, Thomas Friedman, and David Brooks over the past month.

This is a really neat graph. What is even more neat is that you can make your own graphs for any keyword!


 
The never-was influence of the NYT columnists
by noteworthy at 12:10 am EDT, Oct 13, 2005

Decius wrote:

The graph tracks blog mentions of Paul Krugman, Thomas Friedman, and David Brooks over the past month.

This is a really neat graph. What is even more neat is that you can make your own graphs for any keyword!

Ho hum.

Are these graphs statistically significant? It seems not especially meaningful to use "percent of all blog posts" as the Y axis for this particular graph. You need more data to make sense of this.

There is definitely a trend in this graph, but it isn't necessarily the one that is implied by the title of the post.

It could be that the absolute number of Friedman posts has stayed exactly the same over the past month. Instead, we've seen an incremental growth in the total number of posts.

If you do a least squares fit to the Friedman line, it looks like there's been about a 50% drop in the percentage. In other words, in early September, Friedman was mentioned in approximately 6 out of every 100,000 blog posts In early October, it's down to 3 out of every 100k posts.

What this says to me is that Friedman was a blip in the blogosphere before, and he is a blip now.

Look at terms like katrina and rita over the last several months. Now there's a meaningful graph. Or consider mentions about the SCOTUS nominees.

I could make a chart comparing louis armstrong and thomas friedman, and if you look at the period from 3 September to 3 October, you could just as well talk of "the waning influence" of Louis Armstrong.

If you compare johnny cash and thomas friedman over the last two months, you'll find that Thomas Friedman has about as much "influence" on the blogosphere as the late Johnny Cash. Interestingly, you'll also find that a curiously large percentage of the peaks and valleys coincide on the two graphs, suggesting that other factors are at work. The same can be said for sheryl crow. In other words, garbage in, garbage out. This isn't exactly a well-groomed data set.


  
RE: The never-was influence of the NYT Times columnists
by Decius at 1:06 am EDT, Oct 13, 2005

noteworthy wrote:
Look at term like katrina and rita over the last several months. Now there's a meaningful graph. Or consider mentions about the SCOTUS nominees.

If you want to see a blip on the blogosphere try MemeStreams and Mike Lynn


  
Johnny Cash is way more important than Thomas Friedman
by Rattle at 1:32 am EDT, Oct 13, 2005

noteworthy wrote:

If you compare johnny cash and thomas friedman over the last two months, you'll find that Thomas Friedman has about as much "influence" on the blogosphere as the late Johnny Cash. Interestingly, you'll also find that a curiously large percentage of the peaks and valleys coincide on the two graphs, suggesting that other factors are at work. The same can be said for sheryl crow. In other words, garbage in, garbage out. This isn't exactly a well-groomed data set.

All your points are valid.. BlogPulse isn't exactly the greatest way to gauge interest in a given subject accurately. There are cases when you can see a sudden surge of interest, but that's about it. The hurricanes are a good example of that. However, there is another metric available to us that is quite telling.

In the web statistics for MemeStreams, we have seen a very noticeable surge of inbound search engine traffic for all posts that mention NYT columnists such as Thomas Friedman and Paul Krugman. This implies that people are looking for posts in the blogs that are quoting material from their columns, via bloggers who are actually paying for the TimesSelect service. This post will get a significant number of hits just because I mentioned their names.

If there is any dispute that Johnny Cash is way more important than Thomas Friedman, it would be a slightly refined version of your query that searches for "thomas friedman" as opposed to just "friedman". Johnny Cash is part of the background radiation of American culture, where Friedman is at best part of its more informed business and foreign policy dialogue.


 
 
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