Decius wrote:

Mike the Usurper wrote:

The White House initially would not give details of the 10 plots that Bush mentioned in his morning speech before the National Endowment for Democracy, saying some information remained classified. But in the evening, the White House released a fact sheet with a brief, and vague, description of each.

No. This is not credible in any way shape or form.

What is your point of view?
A. There really aren't any terrorists and its all a big conspiracy. There is no war on terror and thousands of people in the federal government including the whole law enforcement establishment are in on it.
B. There are terrorists, but every time they try to attack they are successful. The U.S. Government has not foiled any attacks because the FBI and Intelligence agencies are totally incompetent and the terrorists are flawless.
C. The U.S. Government has actually foiled some attacks, but not these specific 10. They foiled some other, different list of a handful of attacks worldwide.

If your answer is C, please explain to me why they would list this handful of attacks instead of the actual handful of attacks they really foiled, and what difference that makes.

My point of view is, the White House is lying. They say they have this list of cases, but they give absolutley no specifics. They tell groups in different areas, "Oh look out!" and say we've caught people, but never say where, so people in New York think maybe its Oregon they're talking about, the people in Oregon think they've caught someone in Florida, but it's all a smokescreen. It's Joe McCarthy's "I have a list of..." on a different scale.

As I noted, everyone has acknowledged that the terrorist groups are operating under cell systems, and AlQ is more like a club these days than an organization. What that means is, you catch these guys, you foil their plan, you parade them up and down Pennsylvania Avenue and then you stick them in a cement box for the rest of the lives. You don't say "well we have done a lot but we can't say anything about it." There is no security purpose in NOT publicizing the wins.

And you don't need everyone in on it, you just need to keep telling them "wrong shell."

RE: Bush: U.S. Foiled at Least 10 Terror Plots