k wrote:

ibenez wrote:

Healthcare = no.
Education=yes.
Feeding poor people=no.
Housing poor people=no.

Basically, lower taxes and pay for it by getting rid of whatever they are paying for exception military, and basic education.

Ok, so poor people are their own problem?

I am curious about the solution to this issue, because I don't think you can really argue that society bears the burden of it's underclass regardless of how the underclass got there. I'm being very careful here to be a-political. I have my own views about how much you can truly attribute to personal responsibility, but lets leave them out for now.

Assuming that, for whatever reason, there will always be some people who are poor, probably a sizable number, what do you do with them? Even starting from the premise that their situation is 100% their own fault, unless you're willing to simply kill them, society has to handle them somehow. Legions of poor simply living on the street doesn't seem like a good solution for pragmatic reasons if not humanitarian. Do the communities bear the burden? Church groups?

Or will you argue that we should just let them starve?

Government should not play a role here, or a minimal role if anything at all. Yes actually, poor people ARE THEIR OWN PROBLEM.

I grew up poor, my family was poor - and what I saw around me was a pile of lazy shits who didn't do anything to fix their situation - and they were satisfied with depending on the government.

Do you understand that? Satisfied - Meaning the level of care the government currently supplies was good enough for most people to just sit there and live their live that way forever. Most people on food stamps, yes MOST would rather not be on food stamps, but the fact is - they'd too lazy to get off government help because it's too EASY

My family struggled for years, my mom being a single parent with 2 kids - and we broke into middle class on our own. This is how it needs to happen. Government IS the problem - I know this from first hand experience and if you've never been on food stamps or government housing (sec8), and grown up around those people - then I don't think you will understand.

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