If only you could A) land a space shuttle on the moon,

See Nasa's most recent announcements.

B) extract the helium in that quantity

AFAIK this is easy.

C) PRODUCE NUCLEAR FUSION

See ITER.

D) sell the public on said NUCLEAR FUSION

That appears to be the sticky part, but fortunately its going to be about 15 years before we really need to worry about that.

Decius wrote:

If only you could A) land a space shuttle on the moon,

See Nasa's most recent announcements.

B) extract the helium in that quantity

AFAIK this is easy.

C) PRODUCE NUCLEAR FUSION

See ITER.

D) sell the public on said NUCLEAR FUSION

That appears to be the sticky part, but fortunately its going to be about 15 years before we really need to worry about that.

I've been following NASA, of course. I'm as happy as the next guy that we're ditching the overcomplicated, untenable "shuttle" for something that will actually get us off this rock reliably.

From what I saw, the lander portion of the current design still isn't terribly large, and the cargo segments of the rockets aren't designed for re-entry. Did he mean the lander? Possibly, tho he said "space shuttle" so i really don't know what he's about.

I'd check up on ITER, but they're not responding... at any rate, I'm skeptical how close we are to the real thing.

At any rate, I was bitching more about the tone of the article than the content anyway... it was written as if we're just waiting for that darn NASA to get this thing done so we can get unlimited energy from the moon and spent no time on the various hurdles still in front of us.

Decius wrote:

If only you could A) land a space shuttle on the moon,

See Nasa's most recent announcements.

B) extract the helium in that quantity

AFAIK this is easy.

C) PRODUCE NUCLEAR FUSION

See ITER.

D) sell the public on said NUCLEAR FUSION

That appears to be the sticky part, but fortunately its going to be about 15 years before we really need to worry about that.

OMG the tree-huggers are going to go NUTZ - and there's no friggin' trees on the moon that's the ironic part.

I think this is an idea that definetly needs to be studied some more. I mean, it's entirely possible for ***us*** (not you guys as "k" puts it - is he not American?) to accomplish this.

I mean, shit - we are the ones to landed humans on the moon, harnessed the power of the sun (fission/fusion), invented cell phones, regular phones, airplanes, cars, computers, silicon, air conditioning, pace makers, pacman, bread with no crust, etc.

ibenez wrote:
cars, computers, silicon, pace makers, pacman, bread with no crust, etc.

Careful. A German invented the car, a Englishman invented the computer (although an American did build the first turing complete all-electronic computer), silicon is an element discovered in Sweden, a Canadian invented the pace maker, Pacman was written by a Japanese guy, and I have no idea who invented "bread with no crust" but an American did invent sliced bread.

Decius wrote:
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ibenez wrote:
cars, computers, silicon, pace makers, pacman, bread with no crust, etc.

Careful. A German invented the car, a Englishman invented the computer (although an American did build the first turing complete all-electronic computer), silicon is an element discovered in Sweden, a Canadian invented the pace maker, Pacman was written by a Japanese guy, and I have no idea who invented "bread with no crust" but an American did invent sliced bread.

We actualized all of it. And there's really no way to argue that.

Decius wrote:

ibenez wrote:
cars, computers, silicon, pace makers, pacman, bread with no crust, etc.

Careful. A German invented the car, a Englishman invented the computer (although an American did build the first turing complete all-electronic computer), silicon is an element discovered in Sweden, a Canadian invented the pace maker, Pacman was written by a Japanese guy, and I have no idea who invented "bread with no crust" but an American did invent sliced bread.

Oh dear... feeding the trolls!

It's possible I'm not an american by ibenez' metrics of course. I actually like the idea of cooperating with other countries instead of dominating them militarily and economically. This article wasn't even about war or weapons, so it's kind of incredible to even see him/her post on it.

Any excuse to wail on about how america's done (and will do) everything worthwhile in the modern world, I suppose.

Did we really "harness" the power of the sun? So far, all we've done with fusion is figure out how to make the reaction run away in a manner that's incredibly effective at vaporizing buildings and people we don't like. Oh, and i guess we've fused some atoms in labs here and there too.

k wrote:

Decius wrote:

ibenez wrote:
cars, computers, silicon, pace makers, pacman, bread with no crust, etc.

Careful. A German invented the car, a Englishman invented the computer (although an American did build the first turing complete all-electronic computer), silicon is an element discovered in Sweden, a Canadian invented the pace maker, Pacman was written by a Japanese guy, and I have no idea who invented "bread with no crust" but an American did invent sliced bread.

Oh dear... feeding the trolls!

It's possible I'm not an american by ibenez' metrics of course. I actually like the idea of cooperating with other countries instead of dominating them militarily and economically. This article wasn't even about war or weapons, so it's kind of incredible to even see him/her post on it.

Any excuse to wail on about how america's done (and will do) everything worthwhile in the modern world, I suppose.

Did we really "harness" the power of the sun? So far, all we've done with fusion is figure out how to make the reaction run away in a manner that's incredibly effective at vaporizing buildings and people we don't like. Oh, and i guess we've fused some atoms in labs here and there too.

Alright fine, I take it back. And I give up - I'll stop posting Pro-America Neo-Con Crazy Speak messages on this site and try to post less offensive/aggressive meaningful posts.