Rattle wrote:
My 1Ghz G4 Powerbook's performance has really taken a dive since installing Tiger. I'm wondering if anyone else is having similar problems...

Yes, I agree. I wish I had not upgraded. They broke Cisco VPN, Tivo Desktop, and lowered performance a lot. Nothing new has been worth it.

I have one gig of ram, yet regularly my system is having to pull applications out of swap in situations where I'm not pushing it hard and never had a problem in the past.

Yup! It has the same feel as my Windows machine.

Dashboard flat out sucks.

I haven't looked at it in weeks. Its a neat toy, but damn is it expensive, and there is no way to shut it off. There is no GUI method for deleting widgets.

Ok, I like Spotlight...

Haven't touched it. Locatedb anyone? Find?

Safari seems to eat more ram with every update. I'm used to unloading it and re-loading it every so often to alleviate its fat, but that has not been necessary recently because it seems to be crashing more. Mail has been crashing regularly as well.

Safari does seem slow. I think it might be the RSS feeds. I should be able to tell it to stop collecting that data. Instead the only way to turn that off is to remove all the feeds from your bookmarks. I just set the article hold time to one day. I haven't, however, experienced any crashes. Neither Mail nor Safari have died if memory serves.

Decius wrote:

Rattle wrote:
My 1Ghz G4 Powerbook's performance has really taken a dive since installing Tiger. I'm wondering if anyone else is having similar problems...

Yes, I agree. I wish I had not upgraded. They broke Cisco VPN, Tivo Desktop, and lowered performance a lot. Nothing new has been worth it.

I have one gig of ram, yet regularly my system is having to pull applications out of swap in situations where I'm not pushing it hard and never had a problem in the past.

Yup! It has the same feel as my Windows machine.

Dashboard flat out sucks.

I haven't looked at it in weeks. Its a neat toy, but damn is it expensive, and there is no way to shut it off. There is no GUI method for deleting widgets.

Ok, I like Spotlight...

Haven't touched it. Locatedb anyone? Find?

Safari seems to eat more ram with every update. I'm used to unloading it and re-loading it every so often to alleviate its fat, but that has not been necessary recently because it seems to be crashing more. Mail has been crashing regularly as well.

Safari does seem slow. I think it might be the RSS feeds. I should be able to tell it to stop collecting that data. Instead the only way to turn that off is to remove all the feeds from your bookmarks. I just set the article hold time to one day. I haven't, however, experienced any crashes. Neither Mail nor Safari have died if memory serves.

DashOnOff will turn the dash on and off. I haven't run into too many slowdowns, although some program crashes are much more regular. You may want to try restoring permissions or change the power settings for your HD to see if it does anything.

Dashboard flat out sucks.

I haven't looked at it in weeks. Its a neat toy, but damn is it expensive, and there is no way to shut it off. There is no GUI method for deleting widgets.

Of course there is. Hold down option. Personally, I use dashboard quite a bit. Granted, it's partially for frivolous things, but it's also new... I don't think we've seen all the potential it has to offer just yet.

Also, there appear to be a number of ways to disable dashboard, though I haven't tested or verified any of them... the simplest i've seen is to remove hot-keys and hot-corners assigned to trigger it and then reboot... if dashboard is never invoked, it doesn't start automatically according to a couple sites i saw. Google "disable dashboard tiger".

Ok, I like Spotlight...

Haven't touched it. Locatedb anyone? Find?

Yes, opening a terminal and running commands that give me, assuming I know what I'm doing, a path to a file, which I then have to navigate to either via the terminal or the Finder is definitely superior to a persistent search box which gives me one click access to relevant files. Oh, wait...

On top of which, Spotlight is good. And searches saved iChat transcripts.

Safari seems to eat more ram with every update. I'm used to unloading it and re-loading it every so often to alleviate its fat, but that has not been necessary recently because it seems to be crashing more. Mail has been crashing regularly as well.

Safari does seem slow. I think it might be the RSS feeds. I should be able to tell it to stop collecting that data. Instead the only way to turn that off is to remove all the feeds from your bookmarks. I just set the article hold time to one day. I haven't, however, experienced any crashes. Neither Mail nor Safari have died if memory serves.

Safari is slow, always has been. Even with Apple's mods, the khtml based backend is shite compared to moz-based browsers. Wanna test, get something like the Bash guide... something that's a single GIANT html page. Firefox will render it in about 1 second. Safari will choke on it for as many as 60, depending. Alas, the multiday history function and more intuitive (to me) keyboard shortcuts make it more useful to me. Safari doesn't crash on me, but it is slow a lot of the time, and every so often gives inexplicable pinwheel action.

In general, my feelings are mixed on Tiger. It seems more resource hungry, which I expected, and I've had more than one completely devastating failure in Mail (requiring me to start over from the wizard, setting up from scratch), though it's been pretty solid since 10.4.1. I *hate* the way iChat tells me that my network appears to have been disconnected... I KNOW GODDAMMIT, I *HUNG UP* THE MODEM! I also think they shouldn't have bothered separating the the various buddy lists for other protocols... what the fuck do I care what the transport is? Others may disagree on that point, i guess. All that being said, Dashboard has been useful to me on occasion, enough to justify its existence, and I really do like spotlight. Overall, I'm glad we got the household rate... it's well worth the $200/5, but i'd be a lot less pleased if i'd spent $130.

Of course there is. Hold down option.

Where? How long?

Decius wrote:

Of course there is. Hold down option.

Where? How long?

When your pointer is hovering over any widget, press option. A circumscribed X should pop into the upper left corner. It's pretty much instant for me.

Decius wrote:

Rattle wrote:
My 1Ghz G4 Powerbook's performance has really taken a dive since installing Tiger. I'm wondering if anyone else is having similar problems...

Yes, I agree. I wish I had not upgraded. They broke Cisco VPN, Tivo Desktop, and lowered performance a lot. Nothing new has been worth it.

I haven't upgraded yet, but I am getting a new machine shortly and I expect that it will come with Tiger installed on it. (My current PB is only 800 MHz and I wouldn't dream of trying to install Tiger on it.)

My understanding is that the Cisco VPN software was now available. You made a recent MemeStreams post about it. From the comments, it sounds like some people are still having compatibility problems with it. Did you try it? Is it causing crashes? I use the Cisco VPN client, and this would probably affect my interest in running Tiger.

I ran into this article about Tiger performance boosts, which I thought you might find interesting. Someone added a comment saying they did a clean install and found it to offer increased performance over Panther. Another commenter with the 1.67 GHz PowerBook also says that Tiger is faster.

noteworthy wrote:
My understanding is that the Cisco VPN software was now available. You made a recent MemeStreams post about it. From the comments, it sounds like some people are still having compatibility problems with it. Did you try it? Is it causing crashes? I use the Cisco VPN client, and this would probably affect my interest in running Tiger.

I installed it but never tried it. Needed to run it tonight. Got the special "IPC Socket allocation" error. Nice.