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Down to the Wire
by Decius at 1:36 pm EDT, May 29, 2005

] Last year, another Brookings economist, Charles Ferguson,
] argued that perhaps as much as $1 trillion might be lost
] over the next decade due to present constraints on
] broadband development. These losses, moreover, are only
] the economic costs of the United States' indirection.
] They do not take into account the work that could have
] been done through telecommuting, the medical care or
] interactive long-distance education that might have been
] provided in remote areas, and unexploited entertainment
] possibilities.

This article oversimplifies this issue by focusing too much on the executive. There are cultural, infrastructural, and economic differences between the United States and places like Japan and South Korea which have a far greater impact on broadband development in those regions then federal policy. This is not "Bush's fault."

However, the Clinton administration clearly provided leadership in this area, and that leadership was clearly useful, and the Republicans are clearly less interested in telecommunications policy.

The question that I have is, where are the applications? What do my friends in South Korea do with their high speed internet access? They download movies off of p2p networks. This is not the kind of application that is likely to spur trillions of dollars in GDP. It IS possible to overbuild infrastructure.

They've got it. What are they doing with it? Broadband is not a core capability. It is a means to an end. Once you can clearly demonstrate the ends that Japanese can reach, that we cannot, you'll have a compelling arguement for serious government leadership. This arguement skips over this matter as if it was a forgone conclusion. It is not. Someone on this board knows what these applications are. Maybe I ought to be tracking down these brookings reports.

It is also wrong to say that US has always led this race. The US was about 10 years behind the French in development of basic network information services like email and behind nearly everyone in the development of good mobile phone service. The US has a slow tech adoption rate and is very cautious about moving forward. Getting the internet to happen in the US was like mice trying to get an elephant rolling down a hill.

In 1990 it was obvious to me, even as a kid, that I wanted a digital network connection in my house that plugged into my computer. It was obvious to me what I'd do with it. It is not obvious to me what I'd do with 40 megs a second in my house ('cept possibly cancel my colo contract). I promise its going to be obvious to me long before its obvious to the FCC.


 
RE: Down to the Wire
by flynn23 at 10:52 am EDT, May 31, 2005

Decius wrote:
] ] Last year, another Brookings economist, Charles Ferguson,
] ] argued that perhaps as much as $1 trillion might be lost
] ] over the next decade due to present constraints on
] ] broadband development. These losses, moreover, are only
] ] the economic costs of the United States' indirection.
] ] They do not take into account the work that could have
] ] been done through telecommuting, the medical care or
] ] interactive long-distance education that might have been
] ] provided in remote areas, and unexploited entertainment
] ] possibilities.
]
] This article oversimplifies this issue by focusing too much on
] the executive. There are cultural, infrastructural, and
] economic differences between the United States and places like
] Japan and South Korea which have a far greater impact on
] broadband development in those regions then federal policy.
] This is not "Bush's fault."

agreed that it is not his fault, but this administration is far too focused on big business leadership and clearly not interested in 'public good' or public initiatives which would 'interfere' with big business growth. Ironically, we both know that this would translate into tremendous growth for big business if ubiquitous infrastructure were available. Just as there was trillions more value unlocked in shipping and trucking than there ever was in building roads.

] However, the Clinton administration clearly provided
] leadership in this area, and that leadership was clearly
] useful, and the Republicans are clearly less interested in
] telecommunications policy.

see above. I don't think it's an apples to apples comparison. The Internet itself was still very nascent during the Clinton administration. Broadband access was still a novelty in 1999. No doubt when the Republicans took the White House in 2000, 'technology' was a dirty word. They spent a lot of time distancing themselves from the dot.com fallout.

] The question that I have is, where are the applications? What
] do my friends in South Korea do with their high speed internet
] access? They download movies off of p2p networks. This is not
] the kind of application that is likely to spur trillions of
] dollars in GDP. It IS possible to overbuild infrastructure.
]
] They've got it. What are they doing with it? Broadband is not
] a core capability. It is a means to an end. Once you can
] clearly demonstrate the ends that Japanese can reach, that we
] cannot, you'll have a compelling arguement for serious
] government leadership. This arguement skips over this matter
] as if it was a forgone conclusion. It is not. Someone on this
] board knows what these applications are. Maybe I ought to be
] tracking down these brookings reports.

It's not the applications right now, and that will make more sense in the ... [ Read More (0.6k in body) ]


Down to the Wire
by noteworthy at 4:22 am EDT, May 29, 2005

Once a leader in Internet innovation, the United States has fallen far behind Japan and other Asian states in deploying broadband and the latest mobile-phone technology. This lag will cost it dearly. By outdoing the United States, Japan and its neighbors are positioning themselves to be the first states to reap the benefits of the broadband era: economic growth, increased productivity, and a better quality of life.


 
 
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