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CNN.com - House passes embryonic stem cell bill - May 24, 2005
by janelane at 11:23 pm EDT, May 24, 2005

From the front page of CNN when this was memed:

] The bill under threat of veto would extend funding to research on
] embryonic stem cell lines that did not exist in 2001, when Bush
] limited funding to lines in existence at the time. Bush said he
] would not allow "taxpayers' money to promote science which
] destroys life in order to save life."

I see absolutely no difference between that line of reasoning and the one purported for the War on Terror. Sacrificing lives to save lives is what being a World Power is all about as Bush reminds us time and time again when he cuts social programs to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It pisses me off when people use their morality to whatever conflicting ends it suits them. Fucking hypocrite.

-janelane


 
RE: CNN.com - House passes embryonic stem cell bill - May 24, 2005
by Decius at 12:07 am EDT, May 25, 2005

janelane wrote:
] I see absolutely no difference between that line of reasoning
] and the one purported for the War on Terror.

This arguement is a non-starter. In theory, wars aren't a choice. The necessity of the Iraq war is highly questionable, but conservatives believe it was nessecary. You can choose not to do stem cell research.

Having said that, if Bush is concerned about embryos being created only to be destroyed his problem is not with the kind of stem cell research proposed by this law, but rather with the fertility clinics from which these embryos are collected. Thats why this position on stem cell research is disingenuous.


  
RE: CNN.com - House passes embryonic stem cell bill - May 24, 2005
by k at 4:02 pm EDT, May 26, 2005

Decius wrote:
] This arguement is a non-starter. In theory, wars aren't a
] choice. The necessity of the Iraq war is highly questionable,
] but conservatives believe it was nessecary. You can choose not
] to do stem cell research.

[ It may be a non-starter as far as a convincing argument, but then, so is pretty much any line of reasoning when people are as entrenched in their thinking as most people seem to be.

From a certain point of view, funding stem cell research isn't any more difficult a choice than "Should I educate my children?" or "Is cancer bad?" Or "Should we invade Iraq?" to a stauch bush supporter. Of course.

Stem cell research offers a lot of promise for curing or treating a lot of completely awful diseases... one of the best we might have access to. I can completely understand taking the position that it's a necessary activity... that to not investigate the possibilities is more immoral than the act itself.

If you meant only to illustrate that the hardliners on the "religious" right won't buy it, then you're totally right, but they're not addressing the issue from the same set of premises, even if you grant that they're using logic at all. To say that reason, as laid out by a liberal, will not be a convincing to a conservative... that's a truism. We don't think the same way. -k]


 
 
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