flynn23 wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] flynn23 wrote:
] ] ] bucy wrote:
] ] ] ] ] Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected pope today,
] taking
] ]
] ] ] ] ] the name Benedict XVI, after the tolling of bells rang
]
] ] ] ] ] out over St. Peter's square and white smoke drifted
] from
] ]
] ] ] ] ] a Sistine Chapel chimney signaling that the cardinals
] ] ] ] ] meeting for a second day had chosen a new leader of
] the
] ] ] ] ] Roman Catholic Church.
] ] ] ]
] ] ] ] Super conservative. At least he's way old -- he turned
] 78
] ]
] ] ] ] just recently.
] ] ]
] ] ] My gf said it best. "Pope Benedict Nazi XVI"
]
] Well, for one, I was joking. But hmm... let's see...
]
] ] For your information, everyone in Germany was forced to work
]
] ] for the Nazi government,
]
] wrong. There were plenty of people who were not forced to work
] until after the war started. In most cases, they were the old,
] the infirm, women, and 'undesireables'. They didn't even start
] concentrating those people into work camps until 1942. There
] were plenty of people who lived in Germany that would never be
] allowed to work for the Nazis.

Oh sorry, flynn. I didn't consider the "undesirables" (check the spelling on that one, corky) to be humans at all! Silly me. I'll restate that: The every HUMAN in Germany was forced to work for the Nazi Government, especially by 1942.
]
] ] and all youth were indoctrinated into
] ] Hitler Youth.
]
] Definitely wrong. Membership for boys wasn't mandatory until
] 1939, and that still didn't encompass all youth. First, you
] had to be 10 years old at least. Second, Arion's were
] preferred and obviously anyone without the proper blood lines
] were refused (ie Jews, blacks, emegres). Considering that
] Germany's populace even in 1939 when the war started was
] dominated by non-Arion Germans, then it's safe to say that not
] all youth were indoctrinated.

Also, you know so little of the climate of the times in Germany. Hitler had taken Germany from the dumper to new heights and most people supported him for this reason alone. They had no idea that he would ever set the wheels of the holocaust in motion. Nationalism and blind faith are pretty scary concepts when mixed together. For instance, flynn, I doubt you cared too much about innocent Iraqi lives when it was Bill Clinton bombing the shit out of them. You probably didn't worry too much about our personal freedoms disappearing here in the states at the time, either. Well, if Hitler was a democrat running against George Bush, you would probably support him, I would guess. Most of the average German citizens had no inkling of the pernicious nature of the nazi regime until it was too late.
]
] ] Ratzinger managed to get out of it to become a
] ] Catholic Priest
]
] Wrong again. Ratzinger was indeed a member of Hitler Youth,
] although there's little information about his participation
] and I'm sure he won't be too forthcoming about it either.
]

Check the article posted on yahoo news and google news yesterday regarding this. You are wrong. Sorry. It sucks to realize that you are wrong, eh? Again, I would love to have met you at age 10 and talked politics. You probably would sound a whole helluva lot like you do in your thirties, huh?

] ] (another group of people persecuted by the
] ] nazis, you ignorant shit).
]
] Bullshit. While the party line from the Nazis might have been
] anti-Catholic, there's NUMEROUS examples of the Vatican
] cavorting about with the Reich, including some very famous
] pictures of Pius XII and Hitler hanging out. Not only were
] Berlin and the Vatican tight, there are many examples of the
] Vatican assisting the Nazis (particularly in regards to the
] "Jewish Problem") and profiting from their European conquests.
] Many priceless works of art were stolen from churchs in
] Poland, France, and Russia and brought back to the Vatican,
] never to be seen again. Catholics were not persecuted by the
] Nazis, they were merely tolerated. Gays, artists, Jews,
] Muslims... those were people that were persecuted.

Au contraire, you stupid asshole! There were almost as many Catholics killed during the holocaust as Jews. Pius XII was a dickhead, no doubt about it. Won't argue with you there, but to ignore the atrocities committed against the Catholic people during that period reeks of ignorance. Come now, you are possibly smarter than that.
]
] ] You claim to be so liberal, but
] ] that's a joke, since you as racist and oppressive as the
] worst
] ] cracker in Alabama.
]
] I've not claimed to be liberal, simply rational. And I can
] guarantee that I'm not racist.

I think you have proven yourself racist with this post. Remember, black people are not the only race on the planet. They are merely the only one that liberals use as poster children. Your connoting a german man with nazi stereotypes is the same as calling a black pope "Pope Pickaninny XIII." If you cannot grasp this, then you must be mentally retarded as well as ignorant.

]
] ] If he were black and coservative, would you compare him to
] Idi
] ] Amin? If he were Chinese and conservative, would he be
] ] compared to Chairman Mao? How about italian? Would that
] make
] ] him Mussolini? I doubt it. Lose your petty racist views.
]
] this is starting to sound like one of my favorite Polish
] jokes...

Why don't you tell it? We'd all love it, I am sure. Polish jokes would certainly be in keeping with your line of racist banter.

]
] ] You aren't even Catholic , you moron, so nothing the Pope
] does
] ] affects you anyway.
]
] wrong again. I'm Polish American. 100% on both sides of my
] family. 90% of the Polish population is Roman Catholic. Almost
] my entire family is Catholic. In fact, the last time JPII
] visited Detroit, he visited with my Grandmother personally.
] His boyhood parish in Krakow was St. Florians, which is also
] the name of the parish that my Grandmother worked at for
] nearly 40 years in Hamtramck, MI.

Yes, and I am sure you attend church on Sundays. My family are Catholic, but I wouldn't consider myself anything other than a dyed-in-the-wool atheist. At least I will give spiritual and religious people the tolerance I demand from them. You cannot bring yourself to do that and I feel you are an asshole for it. Sorry. Wish I liked you. Just can't bring myself to do it.
]
] So you see, while you seem to enjoy masterbating with your own
] ignorant falsehoods and spewing off hatred and vitriol like a
] caustic 11 year old girl, the fact remains that you're wrong.

No, I am right. So sorry to break it to you, yet again. Oh, and you spelled masturbating wrong, you dumb polack!

] Perhaps you like to think of yourself as intellectual or even
] capable of holding up one end of a conversation, but the truth
] is that you cannot even wield words deftly enough to make it
] seem like you're joking, much less defend whatever pathetic
] position you might take on an issue.

Okay, that was a supporting statement that cannot prove any hypothesis you have so far set in this rant. Hold on a sec while I masturbate to that opinion. Oh yes. Ah, I love me!

It wouldn't even be
] acceptable if you bothered to check facts, since it's hard to
] see information contained within your posts between the
] childish taunts and epileptic siezure talk.

Nonsense, I gave you some nice junkie pics to jack off to the other day. Not my fault if you are impotent.

Clearly, you were
] either not loved as a child, or not punched in the face enough
] as a boy, and definitely not mature enough as a man to reserve
] your tongue for expression of things that are articulate or
] with purpose.

Hmmmm...you information superhighway people always resort back to the "you were not loved as a child" argument when dealing with someone who has obviously licked you in an argument. I think your mommy loved you TOO MUCH as a child and consequently it has made you into a class-A pussy with unrealistic views on just about every topic your flawed brain processes. You don't hear me delving into your past and your psychology. Wanna know why? Because I don't care about you. I simply dislike you.
]
] But unlike you, I can respect the fact that you have the right
] to exist, think your own valueless thoughts, and even enjoy
] bantering about with you from time to time - much like I enjoy
] admiring a really large pile of dog shit in the alley. All the
] boys must think you're so punk rock.

You admire really large piles of dog shit in alleys? That makes me feel kinda bad about pickin on your so much since obviously lack self-esteem. Well, don't worry flynn23. You can take solace in knowing that you do not need to admire the really large pile of dog shit because it's evident that the pile of dog shit should admire you. You are the largest pile of dog shit I have ever had the pleasure of viewing! Keep it up!

RE: Cardinals Elect Joseph Ratzinger as New Pope