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RE: Cardinals Elect Joseph Ratzinger as New Pope
by flynn23 at 11:59 am EDT, Apr 20, 2005

Vile wrote:
] flynn23 wrote:
] ] bucy wrote:
] ] ] ] Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected pope today, taking
]
] ] ] ] the name Benedict XVI, after the tolling of bells rang
] ] ] ] out over St. Peter's square and white smoke drifted from
]
] ] ] ] a Sistine Chapel chimney signaling that the cardinals
] ] ] ] meeting for a second day had chosen a new leader of the
] ] ] ] Roman Catholic Church.
] ] ]
] ] ] Super conservative. At least he's way old -- he turned 78
]
] ] ] just recently.
] ]
] ] My gf said it best. "Pope Benedict Nazi XVI"

Well, for one, I was joking. But hmm... let's see...

] For your information, everyone in Germany was forced to work
] for the Nazi government,

wrong. There were plenty of people who were not forced to work until after the war started. In most cases, they were the old, the infirm, women, and 'undesireables'. They didn't even start concentrating those people into work camps until 1942. There were plenty of people who lived in Germany that would never be allowed to work for the Nazis.

] and all youth were indoctrinated into
] Hitler Youth.

Definitely wrong. Membership for boys wasn't mandatory until 1939, and that still didn't encompass all youth. First, you had to be 10 years old at least. Second, Arion's were preferred and obviously anyone without the proper blood lines were refused (ie Jews, blacks, emegres). Considering that Germany's populace even in 1939 when the war started was dominated by non-Arion Germans, then it's safe to say that not all youth were indoctrinated.

] Ratzinger managed to get out of it to become a
] Catholic Priest

Wrong again. Ratzinger was indeed a member of Hitler Youth, although there's little information about his participation and I'm sure he won't be too forthcoming about it either.

] (another group of people persecuted by the
] nazis, you ignorant shit).

Bullshit. While the party line from the Nazis might have been anti-Catholic, there's NUMEROUS examples of the Vatican cavorting about with the Reich, including some very famous pictures of Pius XII and Hitler hanging out. Not only were Berlin and the Vatican tight, there are many examples of the Vatican assisting the Nazis (particularly in regards to the "Jewish Problem") and profiting from their European conquests. Many priceless works of art were stolen from churchs in Poland, France, and Russia and brought back to the Vatican, never to be seen again. Catholics were not persecuted by the Nazis, they were merely tolerated. Gays, artists, Jews, Muslims... those were people that were persecuted.

] You claim to be so liberal, but
] that's a joke, since you as racist and oppressive as the worst
] cracker in Alabama.

I've not claimed to be liberal, simply rational. And I can guarantee that I'm not racist.

] If he were black and coservative, would you compare him to Idi
] Amin? If he were Chinese and conservative, would he be
] compared to Chairman Mao? How about italian? Would that make
] him Mussolini? I doubt it. Lose your petty racist views.

this is starting to sound like one of my favorite Polish jokes...

] You aren't even Catholic , you moron, so nothing the Pope does
] affects you anyway.

wrong again. I'm Polish American. 100% on both sides of my family. 90% of the Polish population is Roman Catholic. Almost my entire family is Catholic. In fact, the last time JPII visited Detroit, he visited with my Grandmother personally. His boyhood parish in Krakow was St. Florians, which is also the name of the parish that my Grandmother worked at for nearly 40 years in Hamtramck, MI.

So you see, while you seem to enjoy masterbating with your own ignorant falsehoods and spewing off hatred and vitriol like a caustic 11 year old girl, the fact remains that you're wrong. Perhaps you like to think of yourself as intellectual or even capable of holding up one end of a conversation, but the truth is that you cannot even wield words deftly enough to make it seem like you're joking, much less defend whatever pathetic position you might take on an issue. It wouldn't even be acceptable if you bothered to check facts, since it's hard to see information contained within your posts between the childish taunts and epileptic siezure talk. Clearly, you were either not loved as a child, or not punched in the face enough as a boy, and definitely not mature enough as a man to reserve your tongue for expression of things that are articulate or with purpose.

But unlike you, I can respect the fact that you have the right to exist, think your own valueless thoughts, and even enjoy bantering about with you from time to time - much like I enjoy admiring a really large pile of dog shit in the alley. All the boys must think you're so punk rock.

RE: Cardinals Elect Joseph Ratzinger as New Pope


 
 
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