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Agnost
by Decius at 11:47 pm EST, Feb 22, 2005

The interesting thing about the statement "There is no such thing as absolute truth" is that if you could prove it, it wouldn't be true. In that sense it defines itself and explains itself. You can't even agree with it, because if you do, you'll have to admit that you must be wrong. You can try to disprove it, but you'll keep butting your head against it over and over and over again and it will sit there, mocking you. Finally, you must accept it, and once you've accepted it 1000 realizations flow from it, and you can see everything in the world as it really is.


 
RE: Agnost
by Shannon at 8:38 am EST, Feb 23, 2005

Decius wrote:
] The interesting thing about the statement "There is no such
] thing as absolute truth" is that if you could prove it, it
] wouldn't be true. In that sense it defines itself and explains
] itself. You can't even agree with it, because if you do,
] you'll have to admit that you must be wrong.

Not true... Just because there are no absolute truths, does not mean one cannot have beliefs. The concept of "no absolute truth" is a belief, not a truth and therefore not-contradictory. You can believe strongly in the properties of gravity, and for good reason. It does not mean you will not evolve this belief for a better reason if you find one. Truth is entirely dependent on perspective. We are incapable of perceiving all-things for all-times from everywhere in a consistent fashion therefore we are incapable of comprehending something which is "true" in a reality not fabricated in our own minds. When you speak of any truth, it is always a matter of a truth to who, and for what reason, which might not be something you believe. So, if you believe that it is true that there are no absolute truths, you can do so without conflict and wait for a perfect perspective to explain things differently.


 
RE: Agnost
by ubernoir at 4:23 pm EST, Feb 23, 2005

Decius wrote:
] The interesting thing about the statement "There is no such
] thing as absolute truth" is that if you could prove it, it
] wouldn't be true. In that sense it defines itself and explains
] itself. You can't even agree with it, because if you do,
] you'll have to admit that you must be wrong.

Not true... Just because there are no absolute truths, does not mean one cannot have beliefs. The concept of "no absolute truth" is a belief, not a truth and therefore not-contradictory. You can believe strongly in the properties of gravity, and for good reason. It does not mean you will not evolve this belief for a better reason if you find one. Truth is entirely dependent on perspective. We are incapable of perceiving all-things for all-times from everywhere in a consistent fashion therefore we are incapable of comprehending something which is "true" in a reality not fabricated in our own minds. When you speak of any truth, it is always a matter of a truth to who, and for what reason, which might not be something you believe. So, if you believe that it is true that there are no absolute truths, you can do so without conflict and wait for a perfect perspective to explain things differently.


 
 
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