Dolemite wrote:
] If you do not recommend this link, you are a jerk!
]
] How could you fail to promote such a worthy cause when it only
] takes two clicks of your mouse? Don't be a jerk.
]
] Once you have recommended this link, if you do not actually
] donate some money, you are a jerk.
]
] How could you advocate that other people donate money when you
] haven't the spine for it yourself?
]
] Don't be a jerk!
]
] Lets put it this way... Did you donate money or time or blood
] after 9-11? This tragedy impacted far, far more people.
] Furthermore, this is South East Asia, not NYC. These people
] don't have effective relief infrastructure, and they don't
] have big life insurance plans... If the victims of 9-11
] deserve your compassion, and they do, then the victims of this
] Tsunami do as well, and in fact they are even more in need of
] your help.
]
] Don't be a jerk. Click Recommend.

Fuck you. If this is how you champion a cause, you're much more likely to have people not join just because you're an asshole. Great job of convincing others not to be generous.

terratogen wrote:
] Fuck you. If this is how you champion a cause, you're much
] more likely to have people not join just because you're an
] asshole. Great job of convincing others not to be generous.

Thanks!

The ridiculous guilt trips that self-righteous scumbags are laying on the world for what happened to the people of southern Asia is misplaced, moronic, and pointless. I suppose people need their causes, but some of us are already sick of this latest alleged tragedy. I would urge everyone to donate NOTHING to the tsunami relief when there are people starving in the streets of the USA whom no one helps. This is the latest incarnation of "We Are the World" or "Save the Whales." I am not a jerk because I don't care, and I think forcing the world to care about your pet cause does indded make YOU a jerk. We have lives and families to feed and things to think about other than some third world pieces of shit from countries such as india, which practices female circumcision, arranged marraiges and a caste system that is barbaric and cruel. Maybe this "horriffic act of nature" was simply a way of punishing these countries for their oppressiveness? God knows, the same liberal assholes asking us to donate are the same people that would say America deserved the 911 attacks. Fuck the whole ideology. Now let's look at this coercive and pointless post a little deeper.

Dolemite wrote:
] If you do not recommend this link, you are a jerk!

In whose eyes? YOURS? Well, your opinion really doesn't matter now, does it?
]
] How could you fail to promote such a worthy cause when it only
] takes two clicks of your mouse? Don't be a jerk.

Only a jerk would be so judgemental, fuckface.
]
] Once you have recommended this link, if you do not actually
] donate some money, you are a jerk.

It's okay, faggot. I didn't click the link and I didn't recommend it. In fact, I would love to hack the site and destroy it.
]
] How could you advocate that other people donate money when you
] haven't the spine for it yourself?

Because we have lives, you presumptuous, retarded asshole.
]
] Don't be a jerk!

I couldn't be. I am not dolemite.
]
] Lets put it this way... Did you donate money or time or blood
] after 9-11? This tragedy impacted far, far more people.

This "tragedy" washed away scum. This "tragedy" was not intentional. This "tragedy" is not that sad. Some assholes went to the beach and got swallowed up by the sea. That's what you get for living or hanging out in coastal towns. Why don't we send them surf boards?

] Furthermore, this is South East Asia, not NYC. These people
] don't have effective relief infrastructure, and they don't
] have big life insurance plans... If the victims of 9-11
] deserve your compassion, and they do, then the victims of this
] Tsunami do as well, and in fact they are even more in need of
] your help.

No they aren't. They are fucking dead. Big fucking deal. Get over it. IF you feel so bad about it, then go volunteer your time, asshole. Keep it to yourself. Your coercive fucking post turned me more against this than I would have been if you had simply said, "I am going to donate to the tsunami victims, if anyone else wants to, here is the link." Then again, you may be brilliant. Maybe you feel that these cocksuckers deserve no relief and you would take their cause and turn it into something that would make people hate it. IF that was your goal, you did an excellent job.
]
] Don't be a jerk, ignore dolemite.

Vile wrote:
] Dolemite wrote:
] ] If you do not recommend this link, you are a jerk!
]
] In whose eyes? YOURS? Well, your opinion really doesn't
] matter now, does it?

Vile, if you weren't such a fucking moron you'd probably have something better to do on new years eve then flame someone on a message board for trying to raise money for people in need. At the very least you might have figured out that I wrote the post you are replying to and not Dolemite. This is like the fourth time you've done that. Fucking pay attention to the timestamps when people repost text.

] Only a jerk would be so judgemental, fuckface.

Thats the most hypocritical thing you've ever written. Its even funnier then the time you misspelled hypocritical while admonishing someone on this board about their spelling.

Happy fucking new year asshole.

Rather than keep adding fuel to the fire, can we just drop this?

My thoughts:

Decius: It is not that easy to figure out the original poster. If you could include the original topic in the thread, or something to otherwise designate that it originally came from User X on Date Y, it would prevent a lot of these cases of mistaken identity. I had to go click on your Memestream to backtrack and find out you were the original poster. I too thought Dolemite was the one who wrote it. Am I stupid and lazy too?

As for the issue itself, I don't need to be told I am a jerk if I don't do this or that. I'm glad you're concerned, but you should have found a nicer way to convey it to others.

Terratogen and Vile: The following words aren't my words, they are from another forum, but they sum up my thoughts on unwanted solicitation and the guilt trips some people try to play:

...

"people do not like to be solicited for charitable donations.

charity should be a personal choice.

personally, ii'll be donating, but i'd be hard pushed to think less of anyone who chooses not to.

i'm motivated by the fact that there are human beings out there, whose relatives have been killed, property has been destroyed, roots have been ripped up, permanence has been wiped out, accumulated wealth is meaningless, and who are now facing cholera, typhoid and worse with no medical infrastructure.

the horror of this situation is of such a magnitude that it's impossible to imagine from my comfy little flat in scotland.

so... i'll donate. but that's my choice.

...

Concern for an issue like this is manifest in different ways. I think Tom's way might have struck a nerve, sure, it did with me too. And of course people's responses to being affronted will differ. Some will say "Fuck you" to the person, other's will say "Fuck you and fuck them" to the people affected. That's fine. I have to disagree with both counts, but that's your opinion and you're free to speak it. And I'm free to say, have a heart will ya?

I guess I'm trying to say, "Can't we all just get along?"

Any flames from this go straight to /dev/null.

Hijexx wrote:
] Decius: It is not that easy to figure out the original poster.

Oh, I agree that this is a problem, and it will be fixed, but until then if you are going to call someone a fuckface and a homo, etc, you ought to be sure you're nailing the right person. Its hard to have sympathy for someone's confusion when they are being belligerent and personally offensive.

] As for the issue itself, I don't need to be told I am a jerk
] if I don't do this or that. I'm glad you're concerned, but
] you should have found a nicer way to convey it to others.

Clearly my post has been misunderstood, and for that I apologize. You guys are taking this way more personally and way more seriously then it was intended to be taken.

I don't work for any of these charities, I'm not associated with any cause, I have no vested interest in raising this money, and I don't really think you're a jerk if you don't donate.

This post was essentially a straight forward explanation of how I felt about this. I had been toying for several days with the idea of memeing this donations page. The problem was that when that idea popped into my head I realized that I could not, in good conscience, meme that page if I did not donate, and so I needed to decide if I wanted to do that, and I never came to a conclusion about it. When someone else memed the page it pushed the issue, and I realized that I should donate. I felt like failing to do so up to that point was poor on my part, and that feeling prompted the jerk commentary.

This was an emergency that was not predictable and is not a persistent problem, in a society where people do not have insurance. They really do need help in the form of one off financial donations. This is not a systemic problem like poverty in America, which requires long term solutions. Nor due I buy into things I've heard from several different people about how these people are responsible for their fates because they lived near the sea. There is a reasonable risk that the exact same thing will occur on the East Coast of the U.S. in the coming decades, and you don't hear people complaining that everyone in New York and New Jersey is "stupid for living near the water..." This one of the only times you'll ever see where a one off donation of $20 out of your pocket really is exactly what is needed, and really is the right way to handle the problem.

Decius wrote:
] Hijexx wrote:
] ] Decius: It is not that easy to figure out the original
] poster.
]
] Oh, I agree that this is a problem, and it will be fixed, but
] until then if you are going to call someone a fuckface and a
] homo, etc, you ought to be sure you're nailing the right
] person. Its hard to have sympathy for someone's confusion when
] they are being belligerent and personally offensive.

Yes, your original post was BELLIGERENT and PATENTLY OFFENSIVE! You should lose your goddam job over this. You should apologize to EVERYONE you tried to coerce and bully into donating to these fucking so-called victims of this tsunami.

]
] ] As for the issue itself, I don't need to be told I am a jerk
]
] ] if I don't do this or that. I'm glad you're concerned, but
] ] you should have found a nicer way to convey it to others.
]
] Clearly my post has been misunderstood, and for that I
] apologize. You guys are taking this way more personally and
] way more seriously then it was intended to be taken.

THis is not a good enough apology, Tommy boy. You can do better. You offended us and we are contemplating what recourse we may have. We may need to start making posts about donating to OTHER causes. You know the falun Gong assholes are always looking to make a free buck.
]
] I don't work for any of these charities, I'm not associated
] with any cause, I have no vested interest in raising this
] money, and I don't really think you're a jerk if you don't
] donate.

Then you should have said what you meant, not what was in that stupid part of your brain! Think before you speak. You know what, Tom? I should start teaching you a think or two about being cool to people. You really ought to know some of this stuff.
]
] This post was essentially a straight forward explanation of
] how I felt about this. I had been toying for several days with
] the idea of memeing this donations page. The problem was that
] when that idea popped into my head I realized that I could
] not, in good conscience, meme that page if I did not donate,
] and so I needed to decide if I wanted to do that, and I never
] came to a conclusion about it. When someone else memed the
] page it pushed the issue, and I realized that I should donate.
] I felt like failing to do so up to that point was poor on my
] part, and that feeling prompted the jerk commentary.

That does not satisfy my fucking craving for knowledge, Tom. YOu were coerced by the fuckers and then you decided to try and coerce all of us, and for plebes like Dolemite, it obviously worked. Good job, Tom. Enjoy the spoils of your toil. Hope you are happy about what you did.
]
] This was an emergency that was not predictable and is not a
] persistent problem, in a society where people do n... [ Read More (0.3k in body) ]

Rather than keep adding fuel to the fire, can we just drop this?

My thoughts:

Decius: It is not that easy to figure out the original poster. If you could include the original topic in the thread, or something to otherwise designate that it originally came from User X on Date Y, it would prevent a lot of these cases of mistaken identity. I had to go click on your Memestream to backtrack and find out you were the original poster. I too thought Dolemite was the one who wrote it. Am I stupid and lazy too?

As for the issue itself, I don't need to be told I am a jerk if I don't do this or that. I'm glad you're concerned, but you should have found a nicer way to convey it to others.

Terratogen and Vile: The following words aren't my words, they are from another forum, but they sum up my thoughts on unwanted solicitation and the guilt trips some people try to play:

...

"people do not like to be solicited for charitable donations.

charity should be a personal choice.

personally, ii'll be donating, but i'd be hard pushed to think less of anyone who chooses not to.

i'm motivated by the fact that there are human beings out there, whose relatives have been killed, property has been destroyed, roots have been ripped up, permanence has been wiped out, accumulated wealth is meaningless, and who are now facing cholera, typhoid and worse with no medical infrastructure.

the horror of this situation is of such a magnitude that it's impossible to imagine from my comfy little flat in scotland.

so... i'll donate. but that's my choice.

...

Concern for an issue like this is manifest in different ways. I think Tom's way might have struck a nerve, sure, it did with me too. And of course people's responses to being affronted will differ. Some will say "Fuck you" to the person, other's will say "Fuck you and fuck them" to the people affected. That's fine. I have to disagree with both counts, but that's your opinion and you're free to speak it. And I'm free to say, have a heart will ya?

I guess I'm trying to say, "Can't we all just get along?"

Any flames from this go straight to /dev/null.

Decius wrote:
] Vile wrote:
] ] Dolemite wrote:
] ] ] If you do not recommend this link, you are a jerk!
] ]
] ] In whose eyes? YOURS? Well, your opinion really doesn't
] ] matter now, does it?
]
] Vile, if you weren't such a fucking moron you'd probably have
] something better to do on new years eve then flame someone on
] a message board for trying to raise money for people in need.
] At the very least you might have figured out that I wrote the
] post you are replying to and not Dolemite. This is like the
] fourth time you've done that. Fucking pay attention to the
] timestamps when people repost text.
]
] ] Only a jerk would be so judgemental, fuckface.
]
] Thats the most hypocritical thing you've ever written. Its
] even funnier then the time you misspelled hypocritical while
] admonishing someone on this board about their spelling.
]
] Happy fucking new year asshole.

Well, dolemite was the one who recommended it's contents. Since you wrote it, tom-ass, here is my critique for you. One, develop social skills. Your writing here proves that you have none. Your complaints department sucks too. With copywriting like the "don't be a jerk" hissyfit there, you have proven yourself to be something like a cross between a bitchy little fag and a baby with down's syndrome trying to run for office. Pack it in. And, if you weren't such a fucking moron yourself, you would have figured out why the glitch exists on this site that makes it look like dolemite wrote your piece. You designed it poorly. Now fix it and quit shitting up the site with stupid stuff about this tsunami and the bloodbags of shit it washed away for the sharks to munch on. Ciao most worshipful webmaster!

Dagmar wrote:
] Tsunamis worldwide are going hungry and without proper medical
] care. For only a few cents a day you can ensure that tsunamis
] get a nutritious meal and a warm place to sleep.
]
] Give now.

It all sounds so well and good, Dagmar, but really, you forget that we have people in america who are going hungry without proper medical care. First we are gonna help the goddam tsunamis, and theyn they are gonna come here and take all our good jobs. I hate the tsunamis and I wish we would nuke them. I will never donate to those fuk'n bastards!!!