terratogen wrote:
] It looks like the suit might be against just 3 ADC users.
]
] Jello wrote:
] ] ] 12/24/2004: Apple Computer, Inc. has filed suit against
] ] ] Mac TKA members
] ] ]
] ] ] Members of the Mac.TKA Community,
] ] ]
] ] ] Before reading, know this: Any replies made to this
] ] ] thread which are not questions will be deleted.
] ] ]
] ] ] Many of you are still questioning our motives surrounding
] ] ] the disabling, and later the deletion of, the torrent of
] ] ] Apple's pre-release beta of Mac OS X Tiger dubbed Build
] ] ] 8A323. You've all had many questions, and we've been
] ] ] carefully mulling over how to answer your concerns. Now
] ] ] we're prepared to provide you with an answer that is
] ] ] clear as to the issue at hand.
] ] ]
] ] ] The torrent was brought to the attention of Apple
] ] ] Computer's Legal team who subsequently contacted the site
] ] ] administrators, as well as some of the volunteer staff,
] ] ] to request the torrent's removal. The torrent was then
] ] ] disabled with a note instructing other staff members to
] ] ] not re-enable the torrent. Because of the nature of this
] ] ] incident, we wanted to ascertain as much information as
] ] ] possible about what has happened and what will happen in
] ] ] the future before making a statement.
] ] ]
] ] ] The Apple Developer Relations team has asked, and we've
] ] ] complied to the best of our abilities, that all
] ] ] pre-release torrents originating from the Apple Developer
] ] ] Connection be disabled; you'll find that all Tiger builds
] ] ] have been either disabled or deleted. As such, we'd like
] ] ] to ask that no one attempt to upload further pre-release
] ] ] software builds from the Developer program. Apple has
] ] ] many reasons for their decisions not to allow us to offer
] ] ] these torrents to you, and we -- the Mac.TKA Staff --
] ] ] must abide by their wishes as the developers of the
] ] ] software in question.
] ] ]
] ] ] Furthermore, Apple has asked that all users who have
] ] ] downloaded this software without possessing an Apple
] ] ] program membership which allows you legal access to this
] ] ] software to delete all copies which may have been
] ] ] downloaded.
] ] ]
] ] ] We're here to host a Mac community and to serve torrents,
] ] ] to have a learning experience in building a peer-to-peer
] ] ] community. Users are responsible for content which they
] ] ] upload. Moderators and Administrators respond to any
] ] ] valid legal complaints in the manner which the staff
] ] ] feels is appropriate and addresses the concerns of the
] ] ] complaint.
] ] ]
] ] ] Remember that no one on BitTorrent is anonymous -- no
] ] ] matter what precautions you take, BitTorrent needs REAL,
] ] ] EXACT IP information to properly route traffic among
] ] ] peers. Just because we don't list full IPs and usernames
] ] ] on the tracker stats page doesn't mean that users who
] ] ] wish to won't have the ability to get this information.
] ] ] Just keep this in mind as you contribute and take content
] ] ] from this tracker; you should be prepared to assume the
] ] ] risks that may come from participating in a
] ] ] non-anonymous, non-encrypted file sharing network.
] ] ]
] ] ] In light of what has recently taken place, we are going
] ] ] to be making some major changes. We are first going to be
] ] ] migrating to and creating a new forum for all the users.
] ] ] The tracker will keep running but we will make some
] ] ] changes. We will disable the ability to integrate torrent
] ] ] information in the forum. However, we will also enable
] ] ] RSS accessibility. There will be other major changes -
] ] ] possibly even moving to a new tracker system. The system
] ] ] we have now is very functional but I'm certain you all
] ] ] can see some deliquencies which not only reside in our
] ] ] tracker but in just about any other tracker on the
] ] ] Internet. We have been working on most of these changes
] ] ] already but have decided to implement them sooner than
] ] ] anticipated.
] ] ]
] ] ] I'm sure most of you have read the news presented by the
] ] ] Mac Observer about 'the Torrent Website' and three of
] ] ] it's users for which a suit has been filed. The three
] ] ] users, merkin, desicanuk, and dmsmac, are all users of
] ] ] Mac TKA, and 'the Torrent Website' is
] ] ] www.torrentskickass.com. Currently, none of the
] ] ] operators/owners of the site have been included in the
] ] ] filing. These users have requested that they not be
] ] ] contacted about donations or the court filings. While we
] ] ] know you all want to help, the users have been working
] ] ] with Apple Legal to bring resolve. In addition to the
] ] ] three users, Apple also specified 25 John Does in their
] ] ] filing. It has not yet been made clear who the John Does
] ] ] represent.
] ] ]
] ] ] Last, I'm certain many users have questions for which
] ] ] they want clear and concise answers. Before posting, read
] ] ] the other threads first as to not repeat questions. If
] ] ] you have a question, reply to this thread, posting the
] ] ] question. We will collect all of the questions in a new
] ] ] post with answers.

+ 25 John Does

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