dmv wrote:
] This is a strong essay that I couldn't quite find the right
] hooks to quote to convince you to read it -- but you should.
] It nicely summarizes -- in a way I haven't seen before -- why
] some of the new group stuff works, and why some of the common
] group phenomina is endemic to the mediums as presented.

I think this essay is essentially correct. MemeStreams has been a process of experimentation as well. Its a little frustrated right now because we're re-writing the code, and so small tweaks cannot be made, but its coming along. The algoritms we use are really ones we've learned about over time. Its a science really. You can't learn to do this right without actually doing it and seeing what works.

No, MemeStreams doesn't deal with flames well. Part of that is a scale problem. MemeStreams is designed to find good content rather then eliminate bad content. The idea there is that there is so much content that its not worth concentrating on the bottom stuff. You want a high pass filter and not a low pass filter, if that makes any sense.

Unfortunately, there isn't enough content here for that to really work. You still tend to see everything if you read frequently.

Another thing is that MemeStreams forces you to see replies that people have made to your posts, so it has a way of engaging you in arguements even if you want to ignore them.

This is what is interesting about this project going forward once we get the new code out. Tricking out the details of how you filter the threads once they get too big to read... How you combat flames, and mismoderation. Thats going to be fun to explore.

] We talked to Clay on our radio show one day -- and he was great.

Wow, I'm sorry I missed that. Shirky has made a number of valuable observations about the internet. You guys should post your upcoming show contents before the show!

] This also adds ammunition to the design of one of my future
] works, collaborative desktops -- graphical wikis, kind of.
] Imagine your desktop as a virtual desktop, your various
] friends a spacial scroll away -- look at what they are doing
] right now, what their environment looks like, place things in
] their attention, onto their desktop...

This is an interesting experiment, but it raises two questions:
1. Do I really want other people to be able to see what I'm doing on my computer at their leisure.
2. Do I trust people to put valuable things in my attention.

This kind of connection between two workspaces approaches the intimate...

RE: Shirky: Group as User: Flaming and the Design of Social Software