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SOPA, NDAA, and the revolution
by Decius at 6:57 am EST, Dec 18, 2011

Charles Stross herein presents a conspiracy theory that I'll admit having considered, at least in part, but hadn't taken seriously enough to post:

The NDAA and SOPA are designed to provide tools to counter future ArabSpring & Wikileaks type events in the United States, fueled by online social media and the worsening of the housing crisis.

Copyright is just a distraction. During the revolution they want the infrastructure in place to block access to foreign coordinating sites as well as the ability to round up suspected dissidents without charge.

On some level, it doesnt really matter whether or not this is a concious desire - these bills will do what they do.


 
RE: SOPA, NDAA, and the revolution
by Dagmar at 10:18 am EST, Dec 19, 2011

Decius wrote:
Charles Stross herein presents a conspiracy theory that I'll admit having considered, at least in part, but hadn't taken seriously enough to post:

The NDAA and SOPA are designed to provide tools to counter future ArabSpring & Wikileaks type events in the United States, fueled by online social media and the worsening of the housing crisis.

Copyright is just a distraction. During the revolution they want the infrastructure in place to block access to foreign coordinating sites as well as the ability to round up suspected dissidents without charge.

On some level, it doesnt really matter whether or not this is a concious desire - these bills will do what they do.

Jesus.... I've only been saying this for about a week and a half now, man. I can't find any other more plausible explanation for how hard these bills are being pushed.


  
RE: SOPA, NDAA, and the revolution
by Dagmar at 10:33 am EST, Dec 19, 2011

I suppose it would be too much to expect that someone would arrest Bloomberg for engaging in acts of terrorism upon the populace of New York City, and then just hold him in a cell indefinitely.


   
RE: SOPA, NDAA, and the revolution
by Decius at 4:10 pm EST, Dec 19, 2011

Dagmar wrote:
Jesus.... I've only been saying this for about a week and a half now, man. I can't find any other more plausible explanation for how hard these bills are being pushed.

Its plausible. I haven't watched this yet:

This one is shorter:


   
Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress -- and a Plan to Stop It
by noteworthy at 10:16 pm EST, Dec 19, 2011

This talk is worth your time.

Lawrence Lessig, in an October 26, 2011, Google Talk:

In an era when special interests funnel huge amounts of money into our government-driven by shifts in campaign-finance rules and brought to new levels by the Supreme Court in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission-trust in our government has reached an all-time low. More than ever before, Americans believe that money buys results in Congress, and that business interests wield control over our legislature.

With heartfelt urgency and a keen desire for righting wrongs, Harvard law professor Lawrence Lessig takes a clear-eyed look at how we arrived at this crisis: how fundamentally good people, with good intentions, have allowed our democracy to be co-opted by outside interests, and how this exploitation has become entrenched in the system. Rejecting simple labels and reductive logic-and instead using examples that resonate as powerfully on the Right as on the Left-Lessig seeks out the root causes of our situation. He plumbs the issues of campaign financing and corporate lobbying, revealing the human faces and follies that have allowed corruption to take such a foothold in our system. He puts the issues in terms that nonwonks can understand, using real-world analogies and real human stories. And ultimately he calls for widespread mobilization and a new Constitutional Convention, presenting achievable solutions for regaining control of our corrupted-but redeemable-representational system. In this way, Lessig plots a roadmap for returning our republic to its intended greatness.

While America may be divided, Lessig vividly champions the idea that we can succeed if we accept that corruption is our common enemy and that we must find a way to fight against it. In Republic, Lost, he not only makes this need palpable and clear-he gives us the practical and intellectual tools to do something about it.

Decius:

It's important to understand that it isn't Congress that must change -- it is us.


 
 
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