flynn23 wrote:
] specialK wrote:
] ] Vile wrote:
] ] ] The judge refused to grant them a permit because they
] waited
] ]
] ] ] until the last minute. It has nothing to do with
] trampling
] ] on
] ] ] the bill of rights and everything to do with slackers who
] ] show
] ] ] up to protest something because they want to feel hip. If
]
] ] ] they were so interested in politics, they should have run
] ] for
] ] ] office themselves. This was about procrastination. Maybe
]
] ] ] they will learn from their lesson and get an earlier move
] on
] ]
] ] ] things, next time. I know Kerry's loyal brainwashed fools
]
] ] ] want to shift this around to seem like one party is
] ] trampling
] ] ] on our rights, but where were they when the democrats
] ] trampled
] ] ] over the same right to peaceable assembly in Boston last
] ] ] month? they were nowhere. In fact, the "Free Speech
] Zone"
] ] in
] ] ] Boston resembled a palestinian refugee camp. At least the
]
] ] ] protestors in NYC get to March down the Avenue. They got
] ] more
] ] ] than they should. The Central Park Protest would have
] ] ruined
] ] ] my ability to enjoy a place that I love, and if the
] ] ] out-of-towner democrats who would be ruining said lawn had
]
] ] any
] ] ] class, they would have helped the NYC democrats run a
] better
] ]
] ] ] campaign back in 2001 and we would not have Bloomberg as
] the
] ]
] ] ] mayor. Incidentally, Bloomberg has serious issues with
] Bush
] ] ] over Federal Aid, and he did not want to encroach on the
] ] ] hard-working citizens of the big apple by tightening
] ] security
] ] ] unreasonably. He fought the white house in this issue and
]
] ] ] won. Bloomberg usually sucks, but regarding the
] convention,
] ]
] ] ] he has acted with integrity. His primary duty is to take
] ] care
] ] ] of New Yorkers interests first (including protecting their
]
] ] ] beloved park from overburden), the welcome visitors
] second,
] ] ] and then the rights of a few terrorist sympathizers and
] ] ] democrats last. Sounds like a good mayor to me. Remember
]
] ] the
] ] ] concept of constituents? Those are the people to look out
]
] ] ] for. In America, Majority rules, but minorities have
] ] rights.
] ] ] They can march in NYC, just not in the park. They are
] lucky
] ]
] ] ] they arent dealing with the democrats, who would simply
] cage
] ]
] ] ] them in like animals.
] ] ]
] ]
] ] You said it, Vile. Although I was chastised earlier for
] ] posting a message saying that a woman DOES NOT have the
] right
] ] to have an illegal march through Times Square during the
] ] convention and that she should STAY HOME if she is coming
] here
] ] solely to wreck havoc on the city, I agree with you 100%.
] ] Here's to protecting the rights of New Yorkers!! xoxox,
] ] specialK
]
] There's no saving Vile from his own stupidity, but I'm
] surprised at your response specialK, since most of Vile's
] stance is based on circular logic and a fundamental lack of
] understanding of How Things Work. The rest is just incendiary
] crap, so I'm hoping that you don't agree 100% with that.
]
] I can understand if locals don't want to see 100K people show
] up making racket. But c'mon people. That's what a Democracy
] requires. TOLERANCE! For just one fucking day, I think the
] residents of central Manhattan can put up with a protest in
] the Park. If they had to suffer through Garth Brooks, and
] Disney, they can suck it up for one day to uphold the First
] Amendment's right to assemble. Considering that you know all
] sides will be represented, you cannot make this a partisan
] issue. Can't enjoy a place that you love that day? Good thing
] that the island has more attractions per square mile than any
] other place on the continent. Maybe Vile should hike uptown
] and work at a shelter for the day and see how great this
] administration is doing with his neighbors.
]
] The real reason why Bloomberg nixed this probably has nothing
] to do with politics. It has everything to do with money.
] Having a concert in the park generates revenue. Having Disney
] in the park generates revenue. The city can afford to put cops
] and street cleaners on the beat and still put some in the bank
] during those kind of events. But a peaceful protest? Those
] damn hippies ain't gonna spend no money! Fuck em!
]
] So in the end, it's not Democrat or Republican. It's the
] Almighty Dollar.

You are absolutely correct that everything is about money. I've actually accepted that a long time ago. However, I do find Vile's argument entertaining and somewhat correct. The Mayor's first responsibility is to protect the interest of New Yorkers, and I think he is right on the money (ha ha) about that. Now, you do point that NYC does have more attractions per square foot than most places--however, I think Vile was pointing out that Central Park one of the last green, grassy places in the city--restored and reseeded at a cost of $18 million. Ironically, according to the Daily News, this project was paid for by wealthy New Yorkers and private donors. So your argument about the almighty dollar goes both ways.

RE: Yahoo! News - New York tramples Bill of Rights to protect 'grass'?