Decius wrote: ] Vile wrote: ] ] What's wrong with a little coercion? ] ] You just got through ranting for a large run on paragraph ] about how you don't want these people using the great lawn in ] central park. ] ] Coercion is the whole problem. I ought to be free to make my ] own choices. I ought to be free from coercion either by ] government or by radical group. ] ] ] You'd decry the Boston Tea Party if it happened today. ] ] Of course I would. There is a significant difference between ] what was going on in the early 1770's and what is going on in ] the early 2000's. The difference is that we have elected ] representatives, and a right to freedom of speech. ] ] In most cases what coercion means for these people is ] preventing others from meeting and preventing others from ] speaking. They seek to counteract rights that are far more ] important then their partisan politics. These people do not ] beleive in freedom of speech for their enemies. They are ] constantly infuriated that corporations like Nike can express ] a view on a political matter just like they can, and their ] rationalizations for that kind of thinking are a bottomless ] mush of self contradictory misunderstandings of what ] organizations are, what corporations are, and what rights are. ] The bottom line, when you cut through all the crap, is that ] they think rights apply only to people they like, and only ] when they want them to apply. ] ] In the 1770's you had a forgien government which imposed its ] will on the domestic government for its own financial benefit. ] People did not have the ability to change the situation ] through a democratic process. They could not operate by ] changing minds and changing votes. The only option they had ] was to remove the forgien government by force. If thats ] legitimate, then other forms of coercive protest are legitmate ] as well. ] ] But you can't get there unless you decide its reasonable to ] overthrow the government. Its not. These people could get what ] they wanted non-violently if they could convince a large ] enough segment of the population that they are right. They ] cannot because they are not. And they'll never understand that ] because radicals are not usually any good at thinking ] critically about their own side. ] ] So they will continue to commit attrocious actions, and I will ] continue to be unimpressed with them, and unsympathetic when ] their asses end up in jail. I don't think they will care about your position. RE: FREEWAYBLOGGER.com - Free Speech: Use It or Lose It |