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NYPress: SHOVELING COAL FOR SATAN: Christopher Hitchens collects check from Microsoft, calls Moore a coward.
by ryan is the supernicety at 11:15 am EDT, Jun 30, 2004

] One friend I know describes working in the media as
] shoveling coal for Satan. That's about right. A worker in
] a tampon factory has dignity: He just uses his sweat to
] make a product, a useful product at that, and doesn't lie
] to himself about what he does. In this business we make
] commodities for sale and, for the benefit of our
] consciences and our egos, we call them ideas and truth.
] And then we go on the lecture circuit. But in 99 cases
] out of 100, the public has more to learn about humanity
] from the guy who makes tampons.
]
] I'm off on this tangent because I'm enraged by the
] numerous attempts at verbose, pseudoliterary, "nuanced"
] criticism of Moore this week by the learned priests of
] our business. (And no, I'm not overlooking this
] newspaper.) Michael Moore may be an ass, and impossible
] to like as a public figure, and a little loose with the
] facts, and greedy, and a shameless panderer. But he
] wouldn't be necessary if even one percent of the rest of
] us had any balls at all.
]
] If even one reporter had stood up during a pre-Iraq Bush
] press conference last year and shouted, "Bullshit!" it
] might have made a difference.

Wow, this is the kind of media rant I have been wanting to write for quite some time now. Please go and read it.


 
RE: NYPress: SHOVELING COAL FOR SATAN: Christopher Hitchens collects check from Microsoft, calls Moore a coward.
by Rattle at 6:30 pm EDT, Jun 30, 2004

ryan is the supernicety wrote:
] Wow, this is the kind of media rant I have been wanting to
] write for quite some time now. Please go and read it.

I had trouble getting past this line:

I can't imagine anything more uplifting, except maybe a zoo baboon humping the foot of a medical school cadaver.

Um. OK. Whatever gets your kicks.


 
RE: NYPress: SHOVELING COAL FOR SATAN: Christopher Hitchens collects check from Microsoft, calls Moore a coward.
by finethen at 10:23 am EDT, Jul 1, 2004

] ] If even one reporter had stood up during a pre-Iraq Bush
] ] press conference last year and shouted, "Bullshit!" it
] ] might have made a difference.

Not exactly true. Anyone ever heard of Helen Thomas?

"MS. THOMAS: Is this revenge, 11 years of revenge?

MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, I think you know very well that the President's position is that he wants to avert war, and that the President has asked the United Nations to go into Iraq to help with the purpose of averting war.

MS. THOMAS: Would the President attack innocent Iraqi lives?

MR. FLEISCHER: The President wants to make certain that he can defend our country, defend our interests, defend the region, and make certain that American lives are not lost.

MS. THOMAS: And he thinks they are a threat to us?

MR. FLEISCHER: There is no question that the President thinks that Iraq is a threat to the United States.

MS. THOMAS: The Iraqi people?"

-Transcript of a white house press conference a few days before this prominent reporter had her front row seat demoted. Not ONE reporter raised their voice in opposition when she was demoted, instead taking it as a warning for people that ask the wrong sort of questions.

That is messed up.


NYPress: SHOVELING COAL FOR SATAN: Christopher Hitchens collects check from Microsoft, calls Moore a coward.
by k at 4:31 pm EDT, Jun 30, 2004

] One friend I know describes working in the media as
] shoveling coal for Satan. That's about right. A worker in
] a tampon factory has dignity: He just uses his sweat to
] make a product, a useful product at that, and doesn't lie
] to himself about what he does. In this business we make
] commodities for sale and, for the benefit of our
] consciences and our egos, we call them ideas and truth.
] And then we go on the lecture circuit. But in 99 cases
] out of 100, the public has more to learn about humanity
] from the guy who makes tampons.
]
] I'm off on this tangent because I'm enraged by the
] numerous attempts at verbose, pseudoliterary, "nuanced"
] criticism of Moore this week by the learned priests of
] our business. (And no, I'm not overlooking this
] newspaper.) Michael Moore may be an ass, and impossible
] to like as a public figure, and a little loose with the
] facts, and greedy, and a shameless panderer. But he
] wouldn't be necessary if even one percent of the rest of
] us had any balls at all.
]
] If even one reporter had stood up during a pre-Iraq Bush
] press conference last year and shouted, "Bullshit!" it
] might have made a difference.

[ Awesome. Taibbi lays down some smack on lazy journalism, pulling no punches. Hear hear. -k]


NYPress: SHOVELING COAL FOR SATAN: Christopher Hitchens collects check from Microsoft, calls Moore a coward.
by Acidus at 10:13 pm EDT, Jun 30, 2004

] I'm off on this tangent because I'm enraged by the
] numerous attempts at verbose, pseudoliterary, "nuanced"
] criticism of Moore this week by the learned priests of
] our business. (And no, I'm not overlooking this
] newspaper.) Michael Moore may be an ass, and impossible
] to like as a public figure, and a little loose with the
] facts, and greedy, and a shameless panderer. But he
] wouldn't be necessary if even one percent of the rest of
] us had any balls at all.
]
] If even one reporter had stood up during a pre-Iraq Bush
] press conference last year and shouted, "Bullshit!" it
] might have made a difference.
]
] If even one network, instead of cheerily re-broadcasting
] Pentagon-generated aerial bomb footage, had risked its
] access to the government by saying to the Bush
] administration, "We're not covering the war unless we can
] shoot anything we want, without restrictions," that might
] have made a difference. It might have made this war look
] like what it is%u2014pointless death and carnage that
] would have scared away every advertiser in the
] country%u2014rather than a big fucking football game that
] you can sell Coke and Pepsi and Scott's Fertilizer to.
]
] Where are the articles about the cowardice of those
] people? Hitchens in his piece accuses Moore of errors by
] omission: How come he isn't writing about the CNN
] producers who every day show us gung-ho Army desert rats
] instead of legless malcontents in the early stages of a
] lifelong morphine addiction?
]
] Yeah, well, we don't write about those people, because
] they're just doing their jobs, whatever that means. For
] some reason, we in the media can forgive that. We just
] can't forgive it when someone does our jobs for us. Say
] what you want about Moore, but he picked himself up and
] did something, something approximating the role
] journalism is supposed to play. The rest of us%u2014let's
] face it%u2014are just souped-up shoe salesmen with lit
] degrees. Who should shut their mouths in the presence of
] real people. o


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