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Hiibel
by Decius at 12:54 am EDT, Jun 23, 2004

Seeing as I'm sitting here reading Supreme Court decisions I figured I ought to read this Hiibel decision. IMHO, the majority opinion is non-sentical. Basically they say that its constitutional for a state to have a law which requires you to provide your name, unless providing your name could incriminate you, in which case they'd be happy to hear you argument.

I think we ought to have a standard which says that laws are either constitutional or they are not. I don't think its reasonable to say that the law is constitutional unless circumstances prove otherwise, in which case I guess the government isn't supposed to apply it. How would this work in practice?

If I'm being interrogated by a police officer and my name is incriminating information, and I refuse it, and they charge me with failure to provide my name, how am I to challenge the constitutionality of their requirement unless I demonstrate that my name is, in fact, incriminating (and therefore incriminate myself)?


 
RE: Hiibel
by Catonic at 12:49 pm EDT, Jun 24, 2004

Decius wrote:
] If I'm being interrogated by a police officer and my name is
] incriminating information, and I refuse it, and they charge me
] with failure to provide my name, how am I to challenge the
] constitutionality of their requirement unless I demonstrate
] that my name is, in fact, incriminating (and therefore
] incriminate myself)?

I'm glad I could meet you John. See you in the phone book under Doe.


 
 
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