k wrote: ] oaknet wrote: ] ] I am inclined to agree. And on that very basis bombing Iraqi ] ] ] cities filled with innocent civilians was morally ] ] unacceptable. Or was it somehow more acceptable because we ] ] didn't video each innocent "collatoral" man, woman and ] child's ] ] execution under US/UK fire? ] ] [ Hear hear. That's among the reasons i opposed the war, ] because wars are atrocities, probably in all cases, so the net ] postive outcomes better be obvious and overwhelming. Such ] conditions might not exist, which is a solid anti-war stance, ] but anyway, they clearly didn't exist in this case. All the ] reasons boiled down to "Saddam is a dick." ] ] ] ] If we can ] ] bomb a marketplace or a wedding and retain our moral base, ] ] then why not these other murderers? ] ] [ Can't. Those things are wrong. "We" as a nation, have lost ] a lot of our moral standing. "We" as individuals, can only be ] responsible as far as out influence and our voice. If you ] believe US imperialism is a-ok, then yeah, you're more ] culpable for the atrocities than someone who forsaw the ] bullshit and opposed the war on that priniciple. Whatever, ] it's a big argument, but you're basically right. Wars suck, ] and the winners write the accounts of it. That's changing ] with increased media presence... someday maybe accountability ] will be inherent. -k] Ryan: k, thanks for writing my argument for me. it sures does help that we have known each other for so long. Botton line, I can't kill people. I understand the purpose of defense, but I myself can hardly imagine the situation within which I could even do it. Perhaps that makes me weak, but I respect life too much. I'm still working on the rationalization for me to not be a vegetarian, tho. RE: CNN.com - Report: U.S. hostage beheaded - Jun 18, 2004 |