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Microsoft Shelves Palladium in Longhorn (for now)
by k at 2:02 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
] After a year of tackling the Windows security nightmare,
] Microsoft has killed its Next-Generation Secure Computing
] Base (NGSCB) project and later this year plans to detail
] a revised security plan for Longhorn, the next major
] version of Windows, company executives said.
]
] On Tuesday, Microsoft executives confirmed that NGSCB
] will be canned. The project, dreamed up with Intel in
] 2002, was once code-named Palladium. I hate this technology to my core. I see its uses (banking, online transactions, etc), but this closed spec will be used extensively by Microsoft to protect its code and cause incompatibilities. Its like Nuclear technology.Yes, we have over 440 Nuclear power plants worldwide, but we have orders of magnitude more Nuclear weapons. [ That sounds like an argument that we should never have developed Nuclear science... which seems somewhat out of character. The fundamental distinction is that closed-spec "Trusted" computing is not inevitible, as was nuclear, and will not leave us prey to our enemies in the way microsoft would have you believe. There are solutions to the security and IP problems we have today that don't require my PC to be locked away from my control. I'm sure you agree with this... i was just trying to distance the issue from the analogy you made. -k] |
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RE: Microsoft Shelves Palladium in Longhorn (for now)
by Acidus at 4:31 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
] [ That sounds like an argument that we should never have
] developed Nuclear science... which seems somewhat out of
] character. True, I have nothing against Nuclear Science, or its applications. In retrospect, I see the analogy was poor. I was trying to think of a technology that has many positive applications, but the overwhelming implimentation is none of those applications. Trusted Computing scares me, because it removes the computer from your control. As the Patriot Act and countless other events have shown us, people trade freedom and control for saftey and security. I see MS and others spreading FUD to the masses that they shouldn't use *any* software that doesn't operate in Trusted mode, to protect against hackers and thieves. I see Trusted computing as a tool that will be used to lock out 3rd paties and OSS. I fear this misuse of the technology will far overshadow the good intentions of Trusted Computing. |
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RE: Microsoft Shelves Palladium in Longhorn (for now)
by k at 5:27 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
Acidus wrote:
] Trusted Computing scares me, because it removes the computer
] from your control. As the Patriot Act and countless other
] events have shown us, people trade freedom and control for
] saftey and security. I see MS and others spreading FUD to the
] masses that they shouldn't use *any* software that doesn't
] operate in Trusted mode, to protect against hackers and
] thieves. I see Trusted computering as a tool that will be used
] to lock out 3rd paties and OSS. I fear this misuse of the
] technology will far overshadow the good intentions of Trusted
] Computing. [ Oh, yeah, you right, no doubt about it. TC is a load of crap which I hope never sees the light of day. I like my computer open, and I like it flexible. Sometimes i want it to ACT like an appliance, but that shouldn't be it's default mode. Acting like an appliance should be achieved through clean, well-tested, efficient application code, not artifice and law. Unfortunately, it looks like that earlier story was a cTease... /. is reporting now that it's bullshit, and MS has no plans whatsoever to ditch Palladium. Yippee... hang on to the computers you have now... they may be the last general purpose computing devices you'll ever own. -k] |
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Microsoft Shelves Palladium in Longhorn (for now)
by Acidus at 1:40 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
] After a year of tackling the Windows security nightmare,
] Microsoft has killed its Next-Generation Secure Computing
] Base (NGSCB) project and later this year plans to detail
] a revised security plan for Longhorn, the next major
] version of Windows, company executives said.
]
] On Tuesday, Microsoft executives confirmed that NGSCB
] will be canned. The project, dreamed up with Intel in
] 2002, was once code-named Palladium. I hate this technology to my core. I see its uses (banking, online transactions, etc), but this closed spec will be used extensively by Microsoft to protect its code and cause incompatibilities. Its like Nuclear technology.Yes, we have over 440 Nuclear power plants worldwide, but we have orders of magnitude more Nuclear weapons. |
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