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Wonkette
by dmv at 12:11 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
] Then Rush Limbaugh put it all in perspective, after a
] caller remarked that the "stack [of] naked men" was "like
] a college fraternity prank."
]
] RUSH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no
] different than what happens at the skull and bones
] initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it
] and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then
] we are going to really hammer them because they had a
] good time. You know, these people are being fired at
] every day. I'm talking about people having a good time,
] these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of
] heard of need to blow some steam off? |
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RE: Wonkette
by Shannon at 3:27 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
dmv wrote:
] ] Then Rush Limbaugh put it all in perspective, after a
] ] caller remarked that the "stack [of] naked men" was "like
] ] a college fraternity prank."
] ]
] ] RUSH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no
] ] different than what happens at the skull and bones
] ] initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it
] ] and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then
] ] we are going to really hammer them because they had a
] ] good time. You know, these people are being fired at
] ] every day. I'm talking about people having a good time,
] ] these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of
] ] heard of need to blow some steam off? What's this? The Iraq prisions are alowed frat parties? Well, if they are skull and bones, it seems like fitting treatment for the peers of Bush. |
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RE: Wonkette
by Decius at 3:32 am EDT, May 6, 2004 |
dmv wrote:
] ] Then Rush Limbaugh put it all in perspective, after a
] ] caller remarked that the "stack [of] naked men" was "like
] ] a college fraternity prank."
] ]
] ] RUSH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no
] ] different than what happens at the skull and bones
] ] initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it
] ] and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then
] ] we are going to really hammer them because they had a
] ] good time. You know, these people are being fired at
] ] every day. I'm talking about people having a good time,
] ] these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of
] ] heard of need to blow some steam off? My god... The lesson of WWII is that when powerful people become poor and afraid they are willing to submit their freedom for a kind of control and they exert their energies into violent hate. Read "Escape from Freedom" by Erich Fromm... Thats really been my fear in all this. That we'll succumb to this. All the ingredients are here. The fevered, unquestioning nationalism, the symbolism which takes the place of values, the fear, the self assured jingoism. We slap an American Flag on our SUV and talk about how we can dominate any military in the world... People watch fox news because it reinforces all of these emotions. Fox tells you that you are right and good and you've made the right choices and everyone else is wrong, no matter what. And the opposition has become just as unthinking. Hate Hate Hate, all around. Its a perfect environment for a tyrant. Ripe for the picking. We're sitting ducks. All that is required is the right person to arrive on the scene. And now we're rationalizing an atrocity. Limbaugh has been a major public figure for over a decade. Millions look to him for leadership. And he is rationalizing an atrocity. If you can rationalize this, you can rationalize death camps. You can rationalize anything. Your values. Your honor. Your worth. You've replaced it with a sticker. And you're doomed. This might be the point where it actually does make sense to consider getting out of this place. If that person arrives. The one who sees the opportunity here and exploits it. The one who talks of america for americans and the world for america. If he arrives, he'll take it all, and the world will burn. |
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Wonkette
by k at 1:55 pm EDT, May 5, 2004 |
] Then Rush Limbaugh put it all in perspective, after a
] caller remarked that the "stack [of] naked men" was "like
] a college fraternity prank."
]
] RUSH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no
] different than what happens at the skull and bones
] initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it
] and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then
] we are going to really hammer them because they had a
] good time. You know, these people are being fired at
] every day. I'm talking about people having a good time,
] these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of
] heard of need to blow some steam off? [ Jesus. There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start. Fucking asshole Limbaugh. If you need to demean someone in this fashion in order to "have a good time" or get some "emotional release", then you're a monster, and deserve no less than the harshest punishment under military law. A dishonorable discharge shouldn't even be a question... the number of years spent in a dark, cold, uncomfortable cell should be the only topic of discussion as pertains to these individuals. It's like slamming puppies against a wall for fun, only worse, because it's not to cute and cuddly, but dumb, animals, but to real people, with intellect and, well, once they probably had some dignity. You want to talk about hampering our military effort... you have no concept of how much damage these acts have done to america. None. We've engendered more hatred and anger with a few photos than I ever thought possible. This war is lost. Period. The message is gone. The good intent, whatever there was, is gone. The enemy is stronger than ever, and we're to blame. More Americans will die as a result. But then, I suppose someone like Rush would argue that it wouldn't be a problem if the military would have suppressed these photos. Torture and humiliation is bad PR, but it's a necessary OUTLET for our uniformed men and women... we just need to keep quiet about it, for the safety of the US fucking Fatherland. Fuck you Rush, for insulting the thousands of HUMAN BEINGS that make up our armed forces. No one can call themselves a patriot who believes that actions such as these are anything less than reprehensible. End of story. -k] |
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