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Tape Said to Be From bin Laden Offers 'Truce' to Europe
by Jeremy at 8:59 am EDT, Apr 15, 2004

A man identifying himself as Osama bin Laden offered a "truce" to European countries that do not attack Muslims, saying it would begin when their soldiers leave Islamic nations, in a recording broadcast Thursday on Arab satellite networks.

"Stop spilling our blood so we can stop spilling your blood," the message added. "This is a difficult but easy equation."

Is this strategy?

Would Turkey have to expel its own army in order to qualify for the truce?


 
RE: Tape Said to Be From bin Laden Offers 'Truce' to Europe
by Decius at 12:05 pm EDT, Apr 15, 2004

Jeremy wrote:
] Is this strategy?

More, its a good one. This is the followup to 3/11... BL wanted the socialists to win in Spain, and he got what he wanted. He will continue to press Europe to withdraw, through these statements coupled with violence. The left will buy into it and Europe will quickly capitulate. The U.S. will be left dealing with the problem without a large number of allies who provide essential financial support. The result will be a prolonged conflict with significant tax & lifestyle impacts for Americans.

BL does *NOT* want Bush to loose the upcoming election, because a democractic president would repair the rift he is now exploiting. For that reason I don't think you'll see an attack on U.S. soil until after November.

We need to get into Pakistan and finish this off, which means we will end up handing Iraq to the Shia. The June 30th date will go forward, probably with an election. When Bush says changing the date plays into the interests of those who are responsible for the violence in Iraq what he means is that the June 30th date is in the interests of those responsible for the violence in Iraq and if we change it we can expect the violence to become intractable.

The Shia will oppress the Sunni, and Iraq will be a mess for years. Bush will be historically blamed for this despite the fact that Iran is really responsible and Bush doesn't have any choices because he doesn't have the *cash* needed to manage the problems they are creating while also dealing with BL, because the Europeans have succumbed to BL's plottings and aren't supporting the war on terrorism.

A Democrat will replace Bush in 4 years because by then Iraq will be a festering mess and Bush will be blamed for it. He'll repair the relationship with Europe. However, Iraq will continue to be a problem, and Africa will soon produce its own leaders to replace BL.

It is absolutely essential at this stage that the United States start communicating more effectively with both the West, the Middle East, and Africa. Communicating with the street in Africa.


 
RE: Tape Said to Be From bin Laden Offers 'Truce' to Europe
by Rattle at 9:58 pm EDT, Apr 15, 2004

Jeremy wrote:
] Is this strategy?

Yep. I think all Decius's comments are right on..

] Would Turkey have to expel its own army in order to qualify
] for the truce?

That's funny actually..

Remember BL's goals. He wants the title of Caliph. He wants a world wide Caliphate based in Istanbul that governs the entire muslim world. If Turkey expelled its own army, it would make BL's life much easier. In his mind, he would probably think that was the time to press his militants in Iraq north, and change the name of Istanbul or some crap like that..

If we can cut this far into this strategy sitting here in a memestreams thread, I'm sure world leaders are laughing at it, at least as far as a truce proposal goes. His primary goal is most likely to preach to his own choir. The thrust of the tape falls right in line with the rhetoric all islamic militants spew in order to justify their actions. Its more reinforcement for the "you already had your chance" and the "its all your fault" lines. Bullshit requires constant reinforcement as it does not hold its shape on its own. It falls apart as it dries out.

Keeping in mind his goals, he is applying for the position to be the head of the muslim world, spiritually, religiously, politically, and militarily. The first two, he has within his fundamentalist circles. The 4th, he has shown and we have acknowledged by applying our own strength in that area. This sounds like BL attempting to speak with voice number three publicly.


 
 
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