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Bush Seats Judicial Nominee That Senate Democrats Blocked
by Decius at 8:50 pm EST, Feb 20, 2004

] President Bush took advantage of the Congressional recess
] today to bypass Senate Democrats and install Alabama's
] attorney general, William H. Pryor, on a federal appeals
] court that oversees three Southern states.
]
] The president named Mr. Pryor, who has gained prominence as an
] outspoken opponent of legalized abortion and as an advocate for a
] greater Christian influence in government, to the United States Court
] of Appeals for the 11th Circuit.

Well, this pisses me off.

There is, at first glance, an extreme hypocrisy in telling the Iraqi governing council that you are a methodist, and that you would like to be able to practice your religion in their country, while on the other hand appointing a fundamentalist from Alabama, whose track record clearly shows that he is opposed to freedom of religion, to a federal appeals court in your own country. The only way to resolve this inconsistency is to accept that Bush doesn't actually believe in freedom of religion. He believes in the propagation of the Christian faith, and he sees freedom of religion in the middle east as a stepping stone toward achieving that goal.

It is very very well established in history that religious states fail because they are religious states. History is very agnostic in the consistent failure of religious states due entirely to the corruption that "ultimate truth" brings to bare on a society when it carries the force of arms, regardless of what religion we're talking about or who runs it. This is not really a matter of opinion.

There are many people on this planet whose religious beliefs do not allow them to accept this fact, no matter how consistent and comprehensive the historical record has been. There is only one way to think about those people. They are irrational. Irrational + Powerful = Dangerous.


 
RE: Bush Seats Judicial Nominee That Senate Democrats Blocked
by janelane at 11:24 pm EST, Feb 20, 2004

Decius wrote:

] It is very very well established in history that religious
] states fail because they are religious states.

Regardless, he circumvented the Congressional process. Beyond hypocrisy, beyond fundamentalists, that's just wrong. As Jake Morgendorffer would say, "Fundamentalists....DAMNIT!"

I'm also severely inclined to agree with Mr. Edwards on this one:

"This is one more example of why we need a new president."


  
RE: Bush Seats Judicial Nominee That Senate Democrats Blocked
by Decius at 11:39 pm EST, Feb 20, 2004

janelane wrote:
] Decius wrote:
]
] ] It is very very well established in history that religious
] ] states fail because they are religious states.
]
] Regardless, he circumvented the Congressional process. Beyond
] hypocrisy, beyond fundamentalists, that's just wrong.
] As Jake Morgendorffer would say, "Fundamentalists....DAMNIT!"
]
] I'm also severely inclined to agree with Mr. Edwards on this
] one:
]
] "This is one more example of why we need a new president."

Clinton did this too.


   
RE: Bush Seats Judicial Nominee That Senate Democrats Blocked
by IconoclasT at 9:36 pm EST, Feb 21, 2004

Decius wrote:
] janelane wrote:

] ]
] ] "This is one more example of why we need a new president."
]
] Clinton did this too.
Let's keep in mind that the senate (particularly Daschle) has been playing bullshit games with judicial nominees of recent, preventing them from being voted up or down. I'm not defending Bush but the game is basically tit for tat on the beltway. I really feel if these nominees were actually voted down, he wouldn't be playing this game. IMO Philibustering is much like the tantrums 4 yr olds pull.


Bush Seats Judicial Nominee That Senate Democrats Blocked
by k at 10:18 pm EST, Feb 20, 2004

] President Bush took advantage of the Congressional recess
] today to bypass Senate Democrats and install Alabama's
] attorney general, William H. Pryor, on a federal appeals
] court that oversees three Southern states.
]
] The president named Mr. Pryor, who has gained prominence as an
] outspoken opponent of legalized abortion and as an advocate for a
] greater Christian influence in government, to the United States Court
] of Appeals for the 11th Circuit.

Well, this pisses me off.

There is, at first glance, an extreme hypocrisy in telling the Iraqi governing council that you are a methodist, and that you would like to be able to practice your religion in their country, while on the other hand appointing a fundamentalist from Alabama, whose track record clearly shows that he is opposed to freedom of religion, to a federal appeals court in your own country. The only way to resolve this inconsistency is to accept that Bush doesn't actually believe in freedom of religion. He believes in the propagation of the Christian faith, and he sees freedom of religion in the middle east as a stepping stone toward achieving that goal.

[hear-hear. Someone should tell right wingers that wanting the world to be free from religions other than your own isn't the same as freedom of religion.

and don't get me started on how *not* *at* *all* *christian* most fundamentalist "christians" actually are. If i was into the concept of hell, i'd reckon on there being a special place there for motherfuckers who pay lip service to jesus and then act in greedy, hateful, and inhuman ways that jesus would find deplorable. -k]


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