Create an Account
username: password:
 
  MemeStreams Logo

MemeStreams Discussion

search


This page contains all of the posts and discussion on MemeStreams referencing the following web page: CNN.com - Democrats attack administration over Kay's comments. You can find discussions on MemeStreams as you surf the web, even if you aren't a MemeStreams member, using the Threads Bookmarklet.

CNN.com - Democrats attack administration over Kay's comments
by Elonka at 2:13 pm EST, Jan 26, 2004

Here's a summary of how some of the Democratic candidates are jumping on Kay's report.

- Kerry says that it confirms we were misled. Though it's also pointed out that Kerry voted *for* the war. And he also says that he "trusts Colin Powell implicitly."

- Clark says the administration was playing politics with intelligence. He's also trying to finger-point at Rumsfeld. "A lot of us who have not been privy to secret intelligence simply listened to what people told us."

- Lieberman says, "The fact that David Kay now says they weren't there doesn't say [Iraq] never had them."

If I were voting in tomorrow's primary, I'd vote for Lieberman.


 
RE: CNN.com - Democrats attack administration over Kay's comments
by k at 3:22 pm EST, Jan 26, 2004

Elonka wrote:
] If I were voting in tomorrow's primary, I'd vote for
] Lieberman.

alas, he'll be dropping out shortly, i predict. probably not this week, but he's got hardly a shot on 2/3 unless he pulls off a miracle in NH.

back on topic, i agree that there's a lot of misrepresentation of Kay's resignation and subsequent discussions. Self-interested Democrats are painting it as proof that the administration was lying, which is itself pretty indistinguishable from lying, since that's not what Kay has stated.

That being said, the administration is doing an awful lot of "It's not our fault, we had bad intelligence!", "Everyone *thought* they were there" and "We got hosed!" or "We're just doing what Bill Clinton wanted!" I'm still incredibly skeptical of statements like that.

Fundamentally, I'm not as angry about the fact that we went to war on shaky pretenses as much as the way in which it was handled on the global stage, and the lack of adequate planning before engagement. I also maintain that congress acted irresponsibly, at least, by effectively signing away their oversight to the Bush administration. That's my main problem with the Dem contenders who voted for the resolution... not that they supported invading Iraq, but that they permitted it to be done in a poorly thought out manner.

It would seem that most people don't agree with me, since Kerry is at the head of the pack right now, but people are fickle... it might come back up. On the electability tip, none of the senators could go antiwar very effectively against the prez, since he could diffuse it with a quick "[BZZT] You told me to do it. You're done now." Fortunately, there are plenty of other complaints to bring to bear.


 
 
Powered By Industrial Memetics