Rattle wrote:
] ] Police believe one or two young men, possibly teenagers,
] ] are responsible for issuing obscenities and insults to
] ] customers at a Troy Burger King drive-through window.
] ]
] ] "You don't need a couple of Whoppers. You are too fat.
] ] Pull ahead," Officer Gerry Scherlink said is an example
] ] of what the hackers are telling customers at the
] ] drive-through speaker.
]
] Those systems use different frequencies for transmitting and
] receiving in order to be full duplex. That means you can
] speak to either the person inside taking orders or the people
] in the car, without the other knowing. Oh my, the evil fun
] that can be had. (/me knows nothing about any of this, and
] never did anything evil when he was a kid.)

wink wink nudge nudge say no more say no more! heh.. there's some pretty easy mods to get an old ICOM 2 meter rig to be able to xmit on freqs it wasn't designed for. A friend of mine had his set to transmit on local police freqs. He would just hang out in donut shops and make their radios go 'click click'.

Gremlin wrote:
] wink wink nudge nudge say no more say no more! heh.. there's
] some pretty easy mods to get an old ICOM 2 meter rig to be
] able to xmit on freqs it wasn't designed for. A friend of
] mine had his set to transmit on local police freqs. He would
] just hang out in donut shops and make their radios go 'click
] click'.

[[ This isn't necessarily directed at you, but since its come up, I gotta attach some ethics to the thread.. ]]

Er.. Screwing with Burger King is one thing, but I hope that no one reading this thinks that screwing with the police is a good idea, funny, or even acceptable.

That a _really_ good way to get your ass in serious trouble, its not even remotely ethical, and its a perfect example for people to toss around of ways people abuse the ability to tinker with hardware. Its justification for dumb law. That's the type of thing you do when you want to bring some serious heat down on your local hacker/ham/whatever community.

Stick to innocent shit. Don't fuck with money, law enforcement, government, or do any damage. Obey those rules, and you can never get in too much trouble.

Listen to them, understand the way their stuff works, hack your hardware so it will do whatever you want, etc.. But exercise ethics along the way. Don't fucking transmit on their frequencies. Its just asking for more boneheaded laws that don't actually fix or stop anything..

Any idea what could happen to your friend if those cops figured out he was the one making their radio's go "click click"?

I've had my fair share of bad experience with police. I understand cop angst.. But really, don't screw with them. Law enforcement are not the droids you are looking for.

Rattle wrote:
] Gremlin wrote:
] ] wink wink nudge nudge say no more say no more! heh..
] there's
] ] some pretty easy mods to get an old ICOM 2 meter rig to be
] ] able to xmit on freqs it wasn't designed for. A friend of
] ] mine had his set to transmit on local police freqs. He
] would
] ] just hang out in donut shops and make their radios go 'click
]
] ] click'.
]
] [[ This isn't necessarily directed at you, but since its come
] up, I gotta attach some ethics to the thread.. ]]
]
] Er.. Screwing with Burger King is one thing, but I hope that
] no one reading this thinks that screwing with the police is a
] good idea, funny, or even acceptable.
]
] That a _really_ good way to get your ass in serious trouble,
] its not even remotely ethical, and its a perfect example for
] people to toss around of ways people abuse the ability to
] tinker with hardware. Its justification for dumb law. That's
] the type of thing you do when you want to bring some serious
] heat down on your local hacker/ham/whatever community.
]
] Stick to innocent shit. Don't fuck with money, law
] enforcement, government, or do any damage. Obey those rules,
] and you can never get in too much trouble.
]
] Listen to them, understand the way their stuff works, hack
] your hardware so it will do whatever you want, etc.. But
] exercise ethics along the way. Don't fucking transmit on
] their frequencies. Its just asking for more boneheaded laws
] that don't actually fix or stop anything..
]
] Any idea what could happen to your friend if those cops
] figured out he was the one making their radio's go "click
] click"?
]
] I've had my fair share of bad experience with police. I
] understand cop angst.. But really, don't screw with them.
] Law enforcement are not the droids you are looking for.

oh I agree, and he never did anything other than click it a few times to get on the repeater. He just modded his equipment to take out the frequency limits for the challenge, and it took more than just getting on their frequencies, there were some sort of digital code he had to hack. This was quite a while ago and in a small town, I doubt it would even be remotely as easy to do now, and it wasn't easy then.